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Old 07-23-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Live Updates of the Laak vs Computer Match HERE

dave lopan,

easily one of the funniest accounts i've ever seen. really, REALLY well played.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:08 PM
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Forgive my ignorance, but who is Ali Eslami, anyway?
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:09 PM
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Laak is good NL player but since they play Limit I rather have Jen Harman to play than Laak. And other guy???? I never heard of him. [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:17 PM
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Phil isn't that bad. Though I'd much prefer CTS, Durrr, krantz, and Jman.

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i agree, having top NLHE players play limit holdem is incredibly +ev.

SALAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:18 PM
Orlando Salazar Orlando Salazar is offline
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Phil isn't that bad. Though I'd much prefer CTS, Durrr, krantz, and Jman.

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i agree, having top NLHE players play limit holdem is incredibly +ev.

SALAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR!

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You idiot, it was just revealed that it was LHE. Get a life.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:22 PM
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if by just now you mean last week, then yes.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:23 PM
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Forgive my ignorance, but who is Ali Eslami, anyway?

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Ali is Phil's chosen teammate. Apparently he plays $400/$800 to $1k/$2k, mostly at Commerce.
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Old 07-23-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Live Updates of the Laak vs Computer Match HERE

2000 hands against one guy won't prove much...

But as Todd explained...
This is really more of a scientific research experiment...
Than an attempt to prove anything.

The WSOP FT winner was decided by about 300 hands.

These Alberts guys are the leading edge...
In certain specific poker algorithms.

That said...
I have probably read a dozen papers on AI and poker...
And, in general, many academics based conclusions on fairly small samples...
Because they are not committed or creative enough to generate very large samples.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:06 PM
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And, in general, many academics based conclusions on fairly small samples...
Because they are not committed or creative enough to generate very large samples.

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Yeah I don't get this. I don't get this at all. I just don't see why people run a few thousand hands and publish a paper based on that.
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Old 07-23-2007, 03:10 PM
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2000 hands against one guy won't prove much...

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To this end, each 500-hand session will be played as a duplicate match.

This means that the same series of cards will be used in the two parallel matches, with the two humans having the opposite hands in each match. In other words, Ali will have the "North" seat against Polaris_A, whereas Phil will have the "South" seat against Polaris_B. No communication is allowed between the two humans, nor between the separate copies of the Polaris program.

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Duplicate matches have been shown to greatly reduce the natural variance in poker due to luck. The format has been studied both theoretically and empirically in recent publications by the U of A Computer Poker Research Group.
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