NL100 FR, OESFD

Falc · #1 08-09-2006, 10:08 PM

I would like some advice on how to play OESFD's when, if I raise, I'm not gonna be allin. Say I 3-bet this flop and CO calls, what am I gonna do if I miss the turn and he checks? If he bets, say ~2/3 pot?

This particular villain was something like 50/15 or so, don't remember exactly but my question is a rather general one and this is more of an example. I just want some thoughts about this type of hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($109.15)
SB ($152.15)
BB ($72.10)
UTG ($51.71)
UTG+1 ($61.95)
MP1 ($122.55)
MP2 ($56)
CO ($260.42)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $2, 2 folds, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, SB (poster) calls $1.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $4, CO raises to $8, Hero...

Casper05 · #2 08-09-2006, 10:18 PM

any info on CO? it looks like a normal c-bet for UTG+1...Ive seen threads that say push with your oesfd, but do you do that with the bottom flush draw?

shootaa · #3 08-09-2006, 10:19 PM

i woudl just call here cuz u likely dont have any folding equity. turn is just an implied odds situation, do u think ull get paid off if you hit the river etc and what odds ure getting laid on the turn. if utg reriases, then if c/o calls or raises again, its a little tougher to know if u should continue since u could be against a set. if u can get a free card on the turn, i would take it and hope to win a big one when u hit the river, otherwise, u can get out cheap.

Casper05 · #4 08-09-2006, 10:24 PM

If you just call and another diamond falls, no more money will go in the pot unless youre beaten by another flush or one player has the Ad (and even then you have to hit on the turn and aviod diamonds on the river)

silentbob · #5 08-09-2006, 10:27 PM

I would've folded preflop, but as played you should probably push. In a raised pot, you can probably worry a little less about someone having two diamonds. My only concern would be that a set can fill up and beat your made hand. But in any event, having anywhere between 8 and 17 outs with the turn and river to come is still a very good thing.