$225: On bubble with CL, reshove, right?

Chipchucker5 · #1 10-27-2007, 08:54 PM

Unknown villain, but seemed to play reasonably so far, and I don't think he's doing this with junk. Gotta push this, or no?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t4040)
Hero (t8855)
SB (t150)
BB (t455)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="red">CO raises to t800</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t8830 (All-in)</font>

hantori · #2 10-27-2007, 09:01 PM

Yup

vers · #3 10-27-2007, 09:05 PM

v nice.

JacJacAtk · #4 10-27-2007, 09:40 PM

If he knows what he's doing and he's seen you own here (I'm assuming), he's trying to induce a shove, isn't he? Plus, you're guaranteed a showdown with SB (at least) with trash, which might affect the HU dynamic when you get there. Heck, even if he makes a mistake and calls here with something like 99, you end up losing a lot compared to the relative value of what you get when he folds (which will often be less than the full 800 when you lose a showdown with one of the blinds).

I don't know, I don't play at this level, but it seems like a marginal value to me.

jonkeponke · #5 10-27-2007, 10:15 PM

SB is all in due to the blind, so its not like if you beat him he finishes OOP. SB still has to beat him with his random hand. it seems like the only reason to minraise instead of shoving is to induce a shove by you. from his standpoint, it makes since if he can reasonably expect you to reshove him with ATC.

i'd expect to get called near all the time. his range should be composed of only high pairs. but i'm on a downswing, so maybe my sng thinking is going out of the loop.

suzzer99 · #6 10-27-2007, 10:31 PM

With SB allin, I think you can let this go. BB will usually call here as well even if you shove. So no incentive for CO to fold.

Chipchucker5 · #7 10-27-2007, 10:37 PM

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With SB allin, I think you can let this go. BB will usually call here as well even if you shove. So no incentive for CO to fold.

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I actually thought bb would fold a decent amount of the time. This change anything?

vers · #8 10-27-2007, 10:39 PM

Yeah I thought BB and CO fold, and you scoop a good amount of dead money, that's why I thought it was a good play.

sence25 · #9 10-27-2007, 10:41 PM

If CO's raise wasn't a minraise, I'd in fact really hate this.
He might hold Ax here and fold, but BB won't fold if he's not stupi->there is not gonna be an uncontested sidepot usually.
CO might even call something like AT if both SB and BB have called and he knows what you're doing(how tough are 225s? lol).
I don't really like this play.

suzzer99 · #10 10-27-2007, 10:43 PM

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With SB allin, I think you can let this go. BB will usually call here as well even if you shove. So no incentive for CO to fold.

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I actually thought bb would fold a decent amount of the time. This change anything?

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BB's only concern is SB not doubling or tripling up. If he has any sense at all he's calling. If you shove, he folds and CO folds, he's not loving the showdown between you and SB.