100NL KK.....How is my line and wtf do ido?

[NYTyler]

I am new to the pokertracker thing so forgive me if I am wrong here but over the last 17 hands villain is 60/83/12 and has been on fire as of late. And he was won with not very good cards. My main question is...wtf do I do on the turn???!!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($50.50)
BB ($22.50)
UTG ($99)
MP1 ($192.30)
MP2 ($145.40)
Hero ($70)
Button ($98)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $5.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $30</font>, MP2 calls $24.50.

Turn: ($66.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $23</font>, Hero?

[Split Suit]

wow...this is pretty butchered

pf lets get this up to $6.

on the flop, lets bet around 80% pot

i wud not b folding against a c/r from this guy (given ur image, and stack sizing)...but i guess this advice is only given u played the hand with bigger sizings pf and on the flop

[NYTyler]

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wow...this is pretty butchered

pf lets get this up to $6.

on the flop, lets bet around 80% pot

i wud not b folding against a c/r from this guy (given ur image, and stack sizing)...but i guess this advice is only given u played the hand with bigger sizings pf and on the flop

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he didn't check raise me...he bet out on the turn when every draw came in...what do I doe here?

[Split Suit]

he checkraised ur flop CB

and i have no idea...cuz u shud never get here this way...im tryyin to give u a better, more ideal line to take

[NYTyler]

ok got it thanks....i did feel like i underbet it a little up to this point but after him calling such a big raise and then every draw coming in...should i call here? What kind of range can i put him on. I almost pot committed myself here with nearly half my stack in the pot...Is this a call??

[Split Suit]

i prob still call here cuz weve put in 1/2 our stack, and villian has been really active.

[oober]

Loose villian will take a bigger PFR usually, but use the standard 3.5bb +1 for each limper. 8-11 on flop, that way when he reraises you, your push looks better.

But anyways you pfr did nothing to define hands, just reraise and pray, lol, no offense but this betting line is funny as hell.

[RapidEvolution]

With 70BB and KK, you're really looking to build a nice pot preflop, and commit on an aceless board with a favorable stack-to-pot ratio. For example:



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)


SB ($50.50)
BB ($22.50)
UTG ($99)
MP1 ($192.30)
MP2 ($145.40)
Hero ($70)
Button ($98)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $57 (all-in)</font>, MP2 calls $37.

Turn: ($141.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>



I'm happy to get my 70BB stack against this maniac with an overpair, it's just a matter of getting the money in sooner than later. As it played out, I'd shove the turn. This guy could be here with AQ, QJ, or lots of other things aside from the flush/straight.

[GiantBuddha]

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fwiw I used to play around 60/83 and let me tell that is not an easy way to play

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It's extremely hard to play 60/83.

[BlueBear]

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wow...this is pretty butchered

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