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11-30-2007, 03:10 AM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
LOL @ 'another'
the first one still rests on very questionable assumptions 
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11-30-2007, 03:41 AM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
I guess I just remember the times it succeeds, but it seems as though teams get decents looks on field goals in this situation.
1. High Teens % 2. Mid to High 30's 3. Very rarely like 3-5% I guess
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11-30-2007, 04:31 AM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
no idea what you're driving at here.
I was thinking of a different math-football thing and will mention it here instead of in a new thread: Team is up by 7. 2nd and 1 on the opposing 10 with 1:40 left. Team that is trailing has no time-outs left. It's my contention that the team that is losing should allow the winning team to score a TD right now if they will take it. If winning team gets a 1st down they can run the clock out. If losing team is able to stop them on 2nd and 1 and 3rd and 1 then the winning team will kick a FG to take a 10 point lead and the trailing team will get the ball back with about 10 or 15 seconds I think. Trying to score 10 points in 15 seconds has to be more difficult than trying to score 14 points in almost 1:40. Both are really unlikely of course but the 2nd one is at least somewhat possible. Of course, if the attacking team was especially smart then the runner would get the first down and then would fall down shy of the end-zone while the other team is trying to let him score.
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11-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
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[ QUOTE ] LOL @ 'another' the first one still rests on very questionable assumptions [/ QUOTE ] like? [/ QUOTE ] the one where I tear apart an 'expert' who tries to misapply a framed problem to a new context
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#7
11-30-2007, 03:22 PM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] LOL @ 'another' the first one still rests on very questionable assumptions [/ QUOTE ] like? [/ QUOTE ] the one where I tear apart an 'expert' who tries to misapply a framed problem to a new context [/ QUOTE ] That hardly seems like a tearing apart. It seems like you're making a few small counterarguments and then saying "Yep, I'm definitely right."
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#8
11-30-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] LOL @ 'another' the first one still rests on very questionable assumptions [/ QUOTE ] like? [/ QUOTE ] the one where I tear apart an 'expert' who tries to misapply a framed problem to a new context [/ QUOTE ] That hardly seems like a tearing apart. It seems like you're making a few small counterarguments and then saying "Yep, I'm definitely right." [/ QUOTE ] pretty sure MT2R has owned a lot of other threads on this forum in the same way.
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11-30-2007, 03:51 PM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] LOL @ 'another' the first one still rests on very questionable assumptions [/ QUOTE ] like? [/ QUOTE ] the one where I tear apart an 'expert' who tries to misapply a framed problem to a new context [/ QUOTE ] Two small counterarguments with no proof = ownage imo.
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11-30-2007, 04:27 PM
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Re: Have I Discovered Another Mathematical Football Coaching Error?
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] LOL @ 'another' the first one still rests on very questionable assumptions [/ QUOTE ] like? [/ QUOTE ] the one where I tear apart an 'expert' who tries to misapply a framed problem to a new context [/ QUOTE ] Two small counterarguments with no proof = ownage imo. [/ QUOTE ] no proof??? didn't I show where coaches had come across such ideas? didn't I show where the 2 pt conversion rate has been inversely related to the number of 2 pt attempts in a season? hmmmm.... I understand most of the forum cannot think through dynamic systems and understand what is truly at play, but my god not small counter-arguments at all there is only so much time to practice and so many key short yardage plays that a team can have LOL @ using one of those plays down 8 to get a 2 pointer when they might need one for a future TD drive when the math isn't overwhelming I basically pointed out where the whole framework and assumptions don't apply seems like a fatal flaw
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