Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > High Stakes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-29-2007, 01:54 PM
bigt2k4 bigt2k4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UWO/ London, ON
Posts: 4,131
Default 50/100 4 handed

I just doubled up the hand b4. Villain has 10k, I cover
Villain is Owre(23/19/2.3- riv aggression of 3.2) and he and I have a little history with which he has gotten the better of me mostly (3betting me a lot and me folding)


villain raises utg to 400, I call in BB with qsjs.
flop kcqd8c, he bets 700, I raise to 2200, he calls.
turn 6h check check
river 2d, I check he shoves 8k into 5k pot, what is this?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-29-2007, 01:59 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: No longer losing money bluffing
Posts: 19,943
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

why did you c/r the flop?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:04 PM
bigt2k4 bigt2k4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UWO/ London, ON
Posts: 4,131
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

[ QUOTE ]
why did you c/r the flop?

[/ QUOTE ]
I knew this would come up, made a mistake, thought it was the best hand, scared of so many turn cards. Also, figured if I check call on this drawy board it gives away that I only have a mediocre hand and Owre is aggressive enough to push me off of it with his entire range. Also, value of 2nd pair goes up in 4 handed game I figured.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:06 PM
Jman28 Jman28 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Banana Thief
Posts: 4,101
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

If he's dumb, snapcall bc 1000 draws missed. If he's pretty smart, probably fold bc 1000 draws missed.

If he's really smart it just depends on how he reads you and how he thinks you'd interpret the bet.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:08 PM
klownage klownage is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 532
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

Against a random I snapcall this.

What hand is he shoving for value on the river that wouldn't bet the turn? He can't really have 22 here.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:19 PM
jcmoussa jcmoussa is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,580
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

[ QUOTE ]
Against a random I snapcall this.

What hand is he shoving for value on the river that wouldn't bet the turn? He can't really have 22 here.

[/ QUOTE ]

AK?

This guy is tough, I think I fold.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:20 PM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: No longer losing money bluffing
Posts: 19,943
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

[ QUOTE ]
Against a random I snapcall this.

What hand is he shoving for value on the river that wouldn't bet the turn? He can't really have 22 here.

[/ QUOTE ]
very easy to shove river but not shove turn. on turn you are afraid of a trap. once he checks river also you dont think hes good enough to trap twice so you value bet.

and, op, i kinda understood all those reasons but i just dont think they are enough to make it a good move. i would c/c. if he's aggro enough to try to bluff you off your hand, just keep calling on later streets. i think you'll make more money that way than by check/raising the flop. usually, of course. sometimes, i might c/r the flop, but then i definitely wouldn't become lost once he calls it...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:21 PM
bigt2k4 bigt2k4 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: UWO/ London, ON
Posts: 4,131
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

also, villain was very active in the chat box, once I called time. Originally saying just fold a few times, then saying how someone else at the table would make the call, and then typing in call a bunch of times and finally a plz call.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:24 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: The Black Kelly Holcomb
Posts: 13,713
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

For most people chat = nuts, but I know nothing about this guy.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-29-2007, 02:35 PM
jfish jfish is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: what else is on my mind grapes?
Posts: 8,150
Default Re: 50/100 4 handed

call as played, but WOW at that flop c/r. seriously wow. there is not ONE good outcome that can arise as a result of that.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.