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Old 11-27-2007, 10:34 AM
CybrPunk CybrPunk is offline
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Default Nitty half-stack open shoves over EP PFR - calling range? (100nl)

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
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BTN: $17.70
SB: $44
BB: $100
UTG: $73.20
Hero (UTG+1): $117.45
MP: $49.70
CO: $17

Pre-Flop: [Xx Xx] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $44 and is All-In</font>, 2 folds


What's your calling range vs a half-stacked villain who is 11/4 after a few hundred hands?
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Old 11-27-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: Nitty half-stack open shoves over EP PFR - calling range? (100nl)

QQ+,AK. Everything else goes into the muck. If villain was slightly looser i would call with JJ as well
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: Nitty half-stack open shoves over EP PFR - calling range? (100nl)

Assuming you have no immediate history of the guy shoving or doing anything else wacky...

The guy is an 11/4. First time around, I'd tighten to AA/KK, because you'll see AA/KK like 75% of the time, QQ/AK the other 20%, and random garbage 5% of the time. Your range has to be tighter than his to make a profit, and the majority of plays like this from mice or rocks is a monster. Also, the half-stack an 11/4 has is designed to make a call look more enticing.

Loosen the villain's PFR up and you can expand your range to {QQ+, AK} or looser. Also, if the guy keeps doing it over and over a few times, loosen up again to something like {TT+, AJs+, AQo+} or looser. Often times you'll just see him do it once and never again, which says he was just screwing around with a monster {KK+} and trying to get a donkey to call him with {22+, ATs+, AJo+, KQo, KQs}
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Nitty half-stack open shoves over EP PFR - calling range? (100nl)

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QQ+,AK. Everything else goes into the muck. If villain was slightly looser i would call with JJ as well

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That range sounds about right, even though I'd probably fold AK too, at least the first time he did it. My guess is that he's pushing QQ+, AK (maybe JJ), but until I have a bit more confidence in that range, I'm likely laying down AK. If he's never doing this with AQ, I don't think folding AK is a mistake here.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Nitty half-stack open shoves over EP PFR - calling range? (100nl)

We need (40+49.5)-3 : 40, 2.16:1, or about 46% equity to call.

575,334,144 games 0.031 secs 18,559,165,935 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.406% 40.08% 20.33% 230565960 116968584.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 39.594% 19.26% 20.33% 110831016 116968584.00 { AKs, AKo }


739,715,328 games 0.041 secs 18,041,837,268 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 59.460% 43.60% 15.86% 322525584 117305460.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 40.540% 24.68% 15.86% 182578824 117305460.00 { AKs, AKo }

AK is a great hand to shove all in, but terrible for calling if we don't think a 11/4 villain will do this with AQ (I don't think he would).
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: Nitty half-stack open shoves over EP PFR - calling range? (100nl)

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Old 11-27-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Nitty half-stack open shoves over EP PFR - calling range? (100nl)

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