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Old 11-27-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default 2000NL QQ weired spot preflop

different stacks sizes.
Whats the best play here?Hand ranges?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
10 players


Stack sizes:
UTG: $1.973.00
UTG+1: $1.980.00
UTG+2: $2.072.00
MP1: $864.90
MP2: $2.247.00
MP3: $5.117.50
CO: $624.00
Hero: $4.430.50
SB: $507.00
BB: $200.00

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+2 raises to $80</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $175</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $350</font>, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $429</font>, Hero
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

If you have no stats on UTG+2, you usually want to reraise all in.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

? Call? You have no other choice, do you (aside from folding which is ridiculous)? You shouldn't be allowed to raise in this spot.

Also, wtf is $429. It says his stack size is $624.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

Yikes. He cold-calls a 4-bet? I don't think this is a push and I'd lean towards calling here. My plan would be to call here, and raise his flop bet and fold to a push. I think you're looking at KK-AA more often than anything here.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:58 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

AlltheCheese, CO is pushing all in for $624, so it should re-open the betting.

Moldman, please re-read the hand history.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

sick...I don't know, but I think I might just shove here and spike a Q.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

utg+2 15/5 lost 9k over 1k hands at 10/20. is on the weired "tricky" side(but this read is new).

If i remeber right i could push AI. so no overcall here.

What could UTG+2 call here for 270USD?

I MADE A CALL. AND THEN HEinsta PUSHED AI. wtf. I feeled so uuggghhh. I folded. UTG+2 AA, CO KK.

I dont know. I have no clue in this hand.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

Calling was wrong but "right" in this spot?!?!?!
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 2000NL QQ weired spot preflop

I'd probably just call preflop the first time around. 4-betting here is overplaying IMO.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: QQ weired spot preflop

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Moldman, please re-read the hand history.

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Hero 4-bet here and UTG+2 cold-called after raising already raising. He isn't 5-betting his AA or KK because if he has AA, it let's KK fold and if he has KK, the only thing that calls is AA. Good play on his part I think, particularly since he's most concerned about getting Hero's money, and not the CO.
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