low fh 4flushboard against rivershove?

plzbenice · #1 10-10-2007, 06:46 PM

just sat down, eff stacks 200. villain has 660 though, how he won them i dont know.

Villain opens to 8 utg i call on the button with 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] .

flop is:
2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

he bets 16, i raise to 48, he calls. pot is 115.

he should put me on flush/set/semibluff, bluff right?

turn is J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

he checks, i check behind.

river is 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

he shoves for over pot.

whats his most likely hand here? he doesnt shove AdXx hoping to get called by a worse hand right?

when people overbett river slike this its mostly bluff/nuts, msot often nuts if solid players.

dont u see JJ, maybe 66 here a lot? i have to call against an unknown?

LiveNow · #2 10-10-2007, 06:49 PM

i'm never folding vs an unknown...but these overbet shoves always seem to be for value.

HoldEmNewby · #3 10-10-2007, 07:22 PM

i wish i was good enough to fold this

plzbenice · #4 10-11-2007, 02:55 PM

so u think im beat here often?

i mean the 4flushboard is what could amke it a fold.

i guess hed just shove 66 on the flop though so its only really JJ thta we worry about but its also such a probable hand here.

big bets(>POT) from nl200 REGS SEEM TO BE FOR VALUE IN GENERAL OR?

plzbenice · #5 10-11-2007, 02:56 PM

does he bet Ad on turn? does he ever bet Kd?

plzbenice · #6 10-16-2007, 10:39 AM

bump, i cant get away?

no views on this?

rberg · #7 10-16-2007, 10:50 AM

i'd be happy to see him shove
Him bet/calling the flop is the Ad or Kd nearly always; on the turn he just played it like bad players do and tried a c/r

plzbenice · #8 10-16-2007, 11:01 AM

but if hes a reg does he call with AdKx for example? that would be terrible since he never gets paid when he hits and a decent NL200-reg should know that( i dont know if hes a reg but id suppose he is).

duckyfuzz · #9 10-16-2007, 11:05 AM

No way you can put him on exactly JJ/66, easy call.

xeanatic · #10 10-16-2007, 11:36 AM

You have to call this river, I think if he had a set on the flop he would have shoved it there.

you can never put him on JJ or 66 alone, I think the Nut flush is also a big part of his range here.