A re-steal hand

[zizazziza]

I was watching one of sheets videos and he had a similar situation come up I believe and he said it was standard. I just wanted to make sure it was here as well. The guy is a TAG. Is this an obvi shove?
http://www.pokerhand.org/?1258806

For people who dont want to click the link, here is the hand in normal text format

Seat 2: zizazziza412 (93,686)
Seat 3: bealman (18,922)
Seat 4: frenchy70 (136,646)
Seat 5: pokerchamp_p (69,270)
Seat 6: APHIDLION (101,995)
Seat 8: cubs034 (78,615)
Seat 9: phareal15 (65,260)
zizazziza412 antes 300
bealman antes 300
frenchy70 antes 300
pokerchamp_p antes 300
APHIDLION antes 300
cubs034 antes 300
phareal15 antes 300
phareal15 posts the small blind of 1,200
zizazziza412 posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zizazziza412 [Kc Qc]
bealman folds
frenchy70 folds
pokerchamp_p folds
APHIDLION folds
cubs034 has 15 seconds left to act
cubs034 raises to 7,400
phareal15 folds
zizazziza412 raises to 93,386, and is all in

[illini43]

I don't have PokerStove in front of me, but I think this is +EV.

[Dunkman]

I don't like shoving over the top here. I mean he raises 3x and you shove 40x over the top? Seems excessive. Villain has a 32 BB stack. I mean I guess I can see it if you think he's gonna 4bet AI with a wide range, but he doesn't need a good hand here very often to make our move less than optimal. It's probably a +EV move, and better than folding, but I'd think a normal 3bet or a call would be more profitable against most opponents.

[ForRealDD]

Def agree a 3 bet, and maybe a call are in order. But shoving that much over a TAG raiser doesn't seem to be the best play here.

Then again, if you 3 bet to 21k, and villain shoves you're going to be getting ~2-1 on a call.

But again, risking 80% of your stack to increase it by 10% doesn't sound right. I'd like to see more responses on this hand.

[levAA]

don't think so

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.826% 34.11% 04.72% 212585196 29407628.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 61.174% 56.46% 04.72% 351878204 29407628.00 { 77+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }

[ForRealDD]

[ QUOTE ]
don't think so

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.826% 34.11% 04.72% 212585196 29407628.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 61.174% 56.46% 04.72% 351878204 29407628.00 { 77+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }

[/ QUOTE ]

I think villains opening range is significantly wider.

[All_In_Olly]

From the resteal threads ideal stack size for a resteal shove is 10-20 BBs, here you have 40 so its too much.

Your hand is too go to throw away, so I either reraise to 20000 if I think vilain is capable of folding preflop, or call and led any/most flops.

[levAA]

[ QUOTE ]
Quote:

don't think so

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.826% 34.11% 04.72% 212585196 29407628.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 61.174% 56.46% 04.72% 351878204 29407628.00 { 77+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo }



I think villains opening range is significantly wider.

[/ QUOTE ]

this is about the opening range for a tight player at a full table imo?!

ok as his m is about 12 maybe little wider but not significantly - maybe something like

Hand 0: 41.156% 37.35% 03.81% 299288832 30517932.00 { KQs }
Hand 1: 58.844% 55.04% 03.81% 441033576 30517932.00 { 77+, A9s+, KJs+, QJs, ATo+, KQo }

this one gets borderline

[hamnegger]

i think a reraiase is too strong a play . you are risking whole big stack on k q? it may be a +ev play but i don't like it. its a good hand id call and play flop poker.

[Dunkman]

Reraise is fine here, only reasons arguing for a call are stack sizes. A TAG is raising at least top 30% here (and you should be too.) KQs is listed in the top 5% on pokerstove. Both of your ranges are ridiculously tight. The looser one you listed second is about what I'd be opening with UTG at this table. Any player with any type of a clue on the button is opening with at least twice that many hands.