Child's QQ -v- Yang's JJ

[KiwiMark]

I kinda agree that Child's fold was understandable, he didn't want to risk his tournament life on that one pair - there were a few hands that had him beat.

But I don't think the fold was good play. I think that most of the hands that beat him were unlikely. It was possible that Yang had 77, KK or AA - but 44, 22, 74, 72 or 42 were all very unlikely based on the preflop action. There were too many other hands that Yang could have had that Childs was ahead of.

I also think that if Childs didn't want to gamble then he shouldn't have called of 2.5M chips preflop and then bet out 3M chips post flop. Having invested 5.5M chips into the pot he then folded to a bet that was not ten times the pot or anything like that - it was actually less than a pot sized bet (giving him better than 2 to one on his money for a call.

[kypreanus]

Child's line was the WORST.

3 Low Cards FLUSHDRAWBOARD and he Folds QQ when he has to Call only 7 million to win about 25 million.

[scorer]

then he shows his cards like he expects yang to show his/so gay. What about yang going all in J8 s, please luck luck

[cero_z]

Ok,

I've read most of the thread, but not all of it, so if this was mentioned already, sorry. What I haven't seen mentioned in all of this is that Yang places a high emphasis on tells, his opponents were ALL giving off classic tells in most hands, and he seemed to pick up on them accurately vs. all of them except for Kravchenko (who also was very readable IMO, though he played the best of anyone at the FT). Now, granted, due to the run of cards, in most cases, Yang's actions can also be interpreted as a donk not being able to let go of any hand. However, in the few spots he did back down, his opponents were, in fact, quite strong. He was reading readable players well, IMO.

Childs, Hilm, Lam, and Kravchenko all consistently exhibited facial tells that were visible on television, and I believe a trained psychologist with an interest in this area would have little trouble spotting them. In the QQ vs. JJ hand, I think Yang had both a hand that he personally could not lay down, AND Childs was showing weakness, because he was, in fact, very afraid he was facing AA, KK, or TTT.

[HajiShirazu]

Against yang A7 is probably an easy call.

[KiwiMark]

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AND Childs was showing weakness, because he was, in fact, very afraid he was facing AA, KK, or TTT.

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I think if Yang had TTT then it would be a misdeal - you only get 2 cards in Hold'em. It might have been possible that Yang had hit a set of sevens, but not incredibly likely. The board was 7c 4d 2c.

[JereLock]

You only get 2 cards in holdem? Which WSOP were you watching?

[Hollywade]

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then he shows his cards like he expects yang to show his/so gay

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Agreed. And the whiny speech to go along with it...Spare me.

[sapol]

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Childs, Hilm, Lam, and Kravchenko all consistently exhibited facial tells

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explain

[wheelflush]

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Childs, Hilm, Lam, and Kravchenko all consistently exhibited facial tells that were visible on television

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