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Old 08-20-2007, 04:57 AM
ZJ123 ZJ123 is offline
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

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Chardrian is imploding. That tens call was beyond terrible.

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u mean standard?
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:05 AM
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

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Chardrian is imploding. That tens call was beyond terrible.

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mkind jokes?
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

This is so sick. Please gogogogogog ONE TIME [censored] ONE TIME DEALER OOOOOONE TIME clayton and all that.

GL.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:06 AM
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LOL @ anyone who thinks that call was standard. Nitty player shoves 15 BB's UTG. While he probably (shouldn't) have AA or KK, they are possible, but the biggest part of his range is JJ-QQ and AK. He's risking 25% of his stack, for what is, AT BEST, a coin flip when all he has is a bb invested. He's not shoving any smaller pairs there. Furthermore, he was steam-rolling the table and didn't have to make such a risky call for so many chips when he could've just kept taking his blind all day long and grinded him down. Anyone who makes that call is spewing chips.

For those who did not see, here is the hand in question:

Full Tilt Poker Game #3308272249: FTOPS Main Event (22695133), Table 218 - 60K/120K Ante 15K - No Limit Hold'em - 4:49:54 ET - 2007/08/20
Seat 1: CrazyZachary (3,098,979)
Seat 2: MFjimmyLOWRY (1,172,604)
Seat 3: pokerskibum (2,997,821)
Seat 4: rppkoz (1,232,090)
Seat 5: Clayton_27 (2,934,377)
Seat 6: chubbawubba (713,331)
Seat 7: chardrian (6,643,378)
Seat 8: jbaggs (1,690,992)
Seat 9: kiwid10 (2,406,428)
CrazyZachary antes 15,000
MFjimmyLOWRY antes 15,000
pokerskibum antes 15,000
rppkoz antes 15,000
Clayton_27 antes 15,000
chubbawubba antes 15,000
chardrian antes 15,000
jbaggs antes 15,000
kiwid10 antes 15,000
chubbawubba posts the small blind of 60,000
chardrian posts the big blind of 120,000
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
jbaggs raises to 1,675,992, and is all in
kiwid10 folds
CrazyZachary folds
MFjimmyLOWRY folds
pokerskibum folds
rppkoz folds
Clayton_27 folds
chubbawubba folds
chardrian calls 1,555,992
jbaggs shows [Kd Kc]
chardrian shows [Ts Td]
*** FLOP *** [Ks 8d 5h]
*** TURN *** [Ks 8d 5h] [5s]
*** RIVER *** [Ks 8d 5h 5s] [2c]
jbaggs shows a full house, Kings full of Fives
chardrian shows two pair, Tens and Fives
jbaggs wins the pot (3,546,984) with a full house, Kings full of Fives
kiwid10: nh
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,546,984 | Rake 0
Board: [Ks 8d 5h 5s 2c]
Seat 1: CrazyZachary folded before the Flop
Seat 2: MFjimmyLOWRY folded before the Flop
Seat 3: pokerskibum folded before the Flop
Seat 4: rppkoz folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Clayton_27 (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: chubbawubba (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 7: chardrian (big blind) showed [Ts Td] and lost with two pair, Tens and Fives
Seat 8: jbaggs showed [Kd Kc] and won (3,546,984) with a full house, Kings full of Fives
Seat 9: kiwid10 folded before the Flop
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

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LOL @ anyone who thinks that call was standard. Nitty player shoves 15 BB's UTG. While he probably (shouldn't) have AA or KK, they are possible, but the biggest part of his range is JJ-QQ and AK. He's risking 25% of his stack, for what is, AT BEST, a coin flip when all he has is a bb invested. He's not shoving any smaller pairs there. Furthermore, he was steam-rolling the table and didn't have to make such a risky call for so many chips when he could've just kept taking his blind all day long and grinded him down. Anyone who makes that call is spewing chips.

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i think your wrong
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

You could totally blind into 3-4th right now
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:14 AM
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

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You could totally blind into 3-4th right now

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Not a bad idea considering he has the worst seat on the table. A standard TAG strategy (mixing in a few EP steals) should do the trick until this thing gets short-handed.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

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Chardrian is imploding. That tens call was beyond terrible.

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u mean standard?

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it was terrible because the otehr guy had kings ldo.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:16 AM
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rpp,

hugely unlucky bro. vgg.
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: ft sweat Clayton FTOPS ME

I completely agree mkind - the 15 bb utg shove range has to be like 66+ AK or 77+ AQ+ for this call to be +EV which I feel is an extremely extremely wide range for a random players 15 bb UTG shove... let alone that guy.
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