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11-24-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
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My argument is that there is pretty much no chance in hell this guy got railroaded. [/ QUOTE ] Why is this? OP wasn't forced to start this thread. He seems to think he was railroaded. What's his motivation to decieve us? Sounds to me like he had a gun to his head. 
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#2
11-24-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
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[ QUOTE ] My argument is that there is pretty much no chance in hell this guy got railroaded. [/ QUOTE ] Why is this? OP wasn't forced to start this thread. He seems to think he was railroaded. What's his motivation to decieve us? Sounds to me like he had a gun to his head. [/ QUOTE ] Not saying anything about the OP, but there are plenty of people who do a liot more serious crime with every single piece of evidence says the person did the crime without a reasonable doubt, yet that person will deny it to their death.
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11-24-2007, 06:02 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] My argument is that there is pretty much no chance in hell this guy got railroaded. [/ QUOTE ] Why is this? OP wasn't forced to start this thread. He seems to think he was railroaded. What's his motivation to decieve us? Sounds to me like he had a gun to his head. [/ QUOTE ] Not saying anything about the OP, but there are plenty of people who do a liot more serious crime with every single piece of evidence says the person did the crime without a reasonable doubt, yet that person will deny it to their death. [/ QUOTE ] No doubt about it. Lets assume they don't feel the need to start a thread about their bogus convictions here though. With a thread like this you either believe the guy, or move on.
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11-24-2007, 05:59 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
Fly,
[ QUOTE ] Well, there are a lot of pieces of evidence, but I'd say the number one piece would be your guilty plea. [/ QUOTE ] This just makes you sound retarded.
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#5
11-24-2007, 06:17 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
Does this image scare you?
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#6
11-24-2007, 06:19 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
All,
On case you did not read my response to fly Nothing I have posted is any "evidence" that I broke a law. That is why a "good" or even a "not bad" jury is so important. I believe you had some preconceived notions of my guilt from what you read. Imagine what a jury looking at 4 30 yr olds, driving expensive cars and living in nice places might think after the DA presents a case. "Well they're here aren't they". The plea was not me giving a summary of what I did what I did, but the judge asking me questions to respond yes or no to. My lawyer told me what will happen and I should respond affirmatively or the deal will not go through. The judge did not ask me anytthing involving stock promotion, not that it would have made a difference, at that point I would have said that I was responsible for 9-11. Thanks for saying that I am holding up well. This is the thing that still hurts from the whole experience. The people who fully believe that I got a raw deal are those close to me and those who worked there. Most assume "musta did something". FWIW during the almost 2 years I was with that company I made $75,000 year 1 and $100k the second all reported.
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#7
11-24-2007, 06:30 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
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Nothing I have posted is any "evidence" that I broke a law. [/ QUOTE ] Going to jail is evidence that you broke the law. Is it foolproof evidence? No, because not everyone who goes to jail broke the law (just like not everybody who gets off didn't), but the vast majority of those who do go to jail did break the law. Not that I'm saying I assume people who've been to jail necessarily break the law or that the justice system is perfect. There was that death penalty thread a couple of months back that got moved to politics where I posted a bunch about the % of innocent people sent to jail for capital crimes and how it's a tragedy and any worthy legal system will set up rules that would let 10 guilty people go before they imprisoned a single innocent person. However, if we're speaking English, than evidence is something indicative, something which is helpful in coming to a conclusion (it doesn't have to prove anything beyond a doubt, it just has to point in that direction); and there's no question that having gone to jail points in the direction of breaking the law. So yes, you have posted evidence that you broke the law.
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#8
11-25-2007, 02:57 AM
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Going to jail is evidence that you broke the law. [/ QUOTE ] No, this is simply flat out wrong, 100%. Going to jail is evidence only that he was convincted of a crime, not that he committed it. www.dictionary.com and then look up "evidence"
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#9
11-25-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
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[ QUOTE ] Going to jail is evidence that you broke the law. [/ QUOTE ] No, this is simply flat out wrong, 100%. Going to jail is evidence only that he was convincted of a crime, not that he committed it. www.dictionary.com and then look up "evidence" [/ QUOTE ] *sigh*, I really have no desire to play this game anymore and like everyone wants me to stop, but when I'm so obviously right and being countered by people who don't know English/can't even be bothered to make an argument, how can I not reply? [ QUOTE ] ev·i·dence /ˈɛvɪdəns/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ev-i-duhns] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -denced, -denc·ing. –noun 1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. 2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever. ... [/ QUOTE ] The fact that he went to jail tends to prove/is grounds for belief that he broke the law, on the basis that we know that the vast majority of people who went to jail broke the law. Why do you people think evidence has to be 100% foolproof to be evidence?? It doesn't, read the definition. No going to jail doesn't prove he broke the law, but going to jail is evidence that he broke the law, it "tends" to indicate it. After you've looked up the definition of evidence and see the word tends in there, look up that word and see that it means "to have tendency", "to be disposed or inclined", and we all know that if you've been to jail, you probably broke the law. Summary: 1) Going to jail does not necessarily equal having broken the law. 2) However, it *tends* to be the case that people who have been to jail, have broken the law. 3) Therefore, going to jail != prove having broken the law. 4) But going to jail = evidence of having broken the law.
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#10
11-25-2007, 02:30 PM
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Re: Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison
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[ QUOTE ] Going to jail is evidence that you broke the law. [/ QUOTE ] No, this is simply flat out wrong, 100%. Going to jail is evidence only that he was convincted of a crime, not that he committed it. www.dictionary.com and then look up "evidence" [/ QUOTE ] I love how like no one is able to see what knee is saying He is NOT saying that the fact OP went to prison is proof that he committed a crime. He is just saying that information makes it very likely he did. This is evidence in the same way the stat posts from the AP scandal were evidence of cheating.
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