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Old 04-01-2007, 03:35 AM
pig4bill pig4bill is offline
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Live game at MGM in Vegas. This is a newly opened table, 10 handed, 5/5 NL. Goodness knows why they opened this game when there was a deep interest list for 5/10. Max buy is $1000, which most people did. I bought in for $400, expecting it to play like 2/5.

Game is playing a little on the big side, with pre-flop raise of $20 to $25 standard. I thought the game would be similar to 2/5 but it's more like 5/10. After an hour it's more than obvious that 7 or 8 of the others are much better players than I, but I hope to learn something from it. Villain is in seat 5 and playing very aggro to any sign of weakness. When it's checked to him on any street, he's raised about 8 out of 10 times, taking down lots of small to medium pots. I have left the table several times to either buy or get rid of beers, so I've lost track of his stack. I'm in seat 7 so it's hard to casually look and count his stack. I have about $470 at the start of the hand. He's got position on me, so I must be in one of the blinds.

I didn't use the hand converter because I don't remember all the cards exactly. The hand starts out with 5 or 6 limpers to me, and I have AK of hearts. I raise to $20 and 5 call, for $120 in the pot.

Flop is A clubs, another medium club, and raggy heart. I want to discourage club draws so I bet out $200. All fold to Villain, who calls without thinking for long. I figure him for a set, ot two pair at the least.

Turn is another raggy heart, putting two hearts on the board. The pot is $520 and I have only $250 left so I push. If I don't, he'll put me all-in anyway.

River is a blank, no club, no heart. I show my lonely pair of aces, and he turbo-mucks and storms off. It turns out I had him covered.

I know I'm not supposed to give the result, but the action on this hand was over on the flop. I'm looking for critique on my play, but also on what he had. I clearly mis-read him.
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Old 04-01-2007, 03:48 AM
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Default Re: live hand at MGM

raise more pf, with that many limpers 4x is just way too small. i would bet less on the flop, 200 seems like a huge overbet, and saying you did it to 'discourage club draws' is just a copout was of saying 'i'm afraid to lose or fold top pair'. fwiw i would pretty much never be looking to fold this hand, and ur read that his flop call means he has a set or two pair at the least is wayyyyyyyyy off if u've ever played live before u'd know people peel with all kinds of wacky [censored] and AK on an Axx board crushes almost anyones range, especially the player described. once u overbet flop and he calls i couldn't imagine not pushing turn.
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Old 04-01-2007, 04:02 AM
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Why would you want to so heavily price out a potential club draw, esp. w/ your stack size?

If he's 4-1 against don't lay him 1.5-1

and ftr he probably had a weak ace and put you on KK-QQ with that flop overbet.
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Old 04-01-2007, 04:09 AM
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wait, I get it, this is an april fool's joke
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:24 AM
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wait, I get it, this is an april fool's joke

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i lol'ed
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Old 04-01-2007, 06:47 AM
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your wacky flop bet probably got you action from some junk that figured you for a bluff, or he had an ace and it didn't matter anyway.
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Old 04-01-2007, 07:35 AM
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hmmmmmm...dont know exactly how to respond to a post like this.
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Old 04-01-2007, 04:29 PM
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Why would you want to so heavily price out a potential club draw, esp. w/ your stack size?

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To try to blow out some of the limpers that called. We were 6 to the flop. My memory is hazy of the hand as I was slightly drunk and it was a few weeks ago. At the time, I thought I was UTG, but with the aggro guy 2 to my right having position, I must have been in the blinds.

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If he's 4-1 against don't lay him 1.5-1

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Isn't that what I want to do? He has to call 200 into a 320 pot.

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and ftr he probably had a weak ace and put you on KK-QQ with that flop overbet.

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Yeah, I guess he put me on a bluff. I didn't think he'd risk his whole stack on that though, since he had only $20 in the pot.

On the pre-flop bet, I was trying to be a consistant 4x blind. In my buzzed state I forgot the limpers. I thought I was UTG at the time, but the aggro guy had position so I must have been in the blinds.

On the cocktail servers - the place was packed (NCAA weekend) so they were very slow in coming around.

I said right up front I was probably the worst player at the table, so it was not a joke. Not a joke on you guys, I mean.
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Old 04-01-2007, 04:36 PM
AEKDBet AEKDBet is offline
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Did you see the petite cocktail waitress with the straight, jet black hair?
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Old 04-02-2007, 02:59 AM
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LOL, are you kidding? About the only thing I remember is they all had a head.

Thinking it over some more, I must have been UTG pre-flop. Villain must have been on the button, sitting 3 to my right, not 2. I'm not used to 10-handed tables, and I only remember I was at the far end of the "straight" part, in seat 7. I could not have been drunk enough to raise $15 into a $30 pot pre-flop. Opening raise in this game had been mostly $20 to $25. Doesn't make the rest of my play in the hand any better though.
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