$24 - 2pair facing pot bet on 3flush flop

Fishing2do · #1 11-23-2007, 07:24 PM

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t1400
UTG+1: t2135
MP1: t1145
MP2: t1530
MP3: t1760
CO: t1400
Hero: t1420
SB: t1480
BB: t1230

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50 (pot was t75), UTG+1 calls t50 (pot was t125), MP1 calls t50 (pot was t175), 2 folds, CO calls t50 (pot was t225), Hero calls t50 (pot was t275), SB calls t25 (pot was t325), BB checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t350, 7 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets t350, 2 folds, Hero raises all-in t1370, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t1020 (pot was t2070).

All players in the hand are losing players and can have a very wide range of hands (all have above 25% VPIP). The player pot betting is a big losing player according to sharkscope, but I havent got hand stats on him.

Calling is obviously not done. I Pushed the hand because I figured he'd have a high Ace trying to protect its hand from flush-draws. But with the amount of players involved in the pot, I think I shouldve folded due to the increased chance of somebody having a flush/set.
Would the situation change with only 3 players in the hand?

RexWoo · #2 11-23-2007, 07:31 PM

the pb is that you are 268 to see the flop and now the possibility that someone flopped the flush is major imo.

I might call and fold if he bets again on the turn but actually folding might be better.

aghasax · #3 11-24-2007, 01:23 PM

I generally fold preflop but that might be a leak. Postflop I'd play it the same way against a villain as described. I have a hard time putting him on a flopped flush; a big loser would seldom pot it on the flop but slowplay or whatever. He will most likely have a flushdraw or a high A in whcich case you are a good enough favorite. As for the other players in the hand I'm not too concerned with opponents flopping flushes, but may be I should.

HajiShirazu · #4 11-24-2007, 02:02 PM

Only problem is that if he has an ace with a diamond kicker > 6 you are a slight underdog and you're not a big favorite over anything but a bare ace with no FD. I would actually fold this flop and not feel bad about it. Also if he is loose/bad that puts more suited trash hands into his range making a flush more likely.

aghasax · #5 11-24-2007, 02:29 PM

Yeah you're right I guess that makes it closer if not a fold.