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Old 11-18-2007, 05:24 PM
idcimallin idcimallin is offline
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

3 bet the flop and you'll be surprised with what the villain would call with. Looks like villain has something like 6x or the straight and overvaluing his hand. I would reraise to 150 and would expect to get called many of the times given your image.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

Flop is fine I think, don't wanna scare him off.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:25 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

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I atleast minraise river

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are you folding to a push?
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

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Raise to 150 and puke/call when he shoves because he's probably shoving any 4.

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its hard to tell cuz hes a donk, but his bet sizing doesnt look like a 4. He bets kinda weak on the turn like hes scared of the 4 straight, and then he bets more normal on the river since hes no longer scared of you having the straight (or cuz he has a fullhouse and doesnt care)

I think he could easily have a naked 6 a lot, or a big PP he was trying to trap with PF (as well as a fullhouse), much more often than he has a 4
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:30 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

Personally I would 3bet the flop.

how does the villain play mid pps? like 77-99? If he doesnt 3b those pf, he could possibly call your flop 3bet with that, 56, 34, 45, 46, or a4s

as played i would raise to like 150 and then puke and fold when he shoves [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

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Raise to 150 and puke/call when he shoves because he's probably shoving any 4.

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its hard to tell cuz hes a donk, but his bet sizing doesnt look like a 4. He bets kinda weak on the turn like hes scared of the 4 straight, and then he bets more normal on the river since hes no longer scared of you having the straight (or cuz he has a fullhouse and doesnt care)

I think he could easily have a naked 6 a lot, or a big PP he was trying to trap with PF (as well as a fullhouse), much more often than he has a 4

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I see this a lot when fish have FDs or whatever, they bet small on the turn and then huge on the river.. so I think it is the same line with a SD..
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

minraise and fold to a shove is pretty good actually
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.

i would shove and expect to get looked up by any straight and possibly even an overplayed, non-full 6x. it's a huge cooler if he has you beat.

also your math is wrong. if you shove it's only $174 to him in a $378 pot - better than 2:1.

pushpushpush
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:42 PM
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i would shove and expect to get looked up by any straight and possibly even an overplayed, non-full 6x.

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Old 11-18-2007, 05:50 PM
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Default Re: 33 - bottom set, super coordinated board, DEEEEEP.


River: ($88) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $60</font>, <font color="red"> Hero raises to 120 </font>, BB folds

thanks for the replies guys. i was planning to raise/call but was really, really hoping he didnt shove
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