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Old 09-17-2007, 03:06 PM
Max1977 Max1977 is offline
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Default pocket overpair vs a set?

I have a real problem getting away from an overpair with a seemingly harmless flop. For example, its the beginning of a sng - low blinds - everyone about equal chipstacks. I pick up a pocket pair, kings, and raise 4x's the bb. There is only one caller, on the button (I am in the cutoff).

Flop comes rainbow, 2, 6, J. I bet half the pot, the cutoff raises me. What to do? I reraise all in (calling his raise commits half of my stack anyway) and he has a set of deuces. I am out. Is there anyway to get away from an overpair when the flop is not connected or suited? I thought for a bit, and figured, he could easily have AK and think I didn't connect, or AJ and have just hit top pair. He also could hold qq.

This was a low limit online sng (30 buy in) btw. I am new to poker (obviously) and don't know what to do with these situations. I figured odds wise, the only hands that could beat me would be if he smooth called aces, or had a set. A draw was not possible, and two pair was all but impossible with that flop. Any help is appreciated.
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:23 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default Re: pocket overpair vs a set?

Without a very strong read on villain, you pretty much have to lose your stack in these situations. You will give up value in the long run playing it for pot control. (At least against unknowns at the low to medium buy-ins.)
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Old 09-17-2007, 09:54 PM
joshrocker joshrocker is offline
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Default Re: pocket overpair vs a set?

This is probably the toughest situation in poker(in my opinion). There is really no way to get away from a hand like KK or AA early on. With no read on the player, your gonna have positive EV in most of these situations. Harmless looking flops pretty much warrant a call everytime early on in SNG's.
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:23 PM
Scotty_12 Scotty_12 is offline
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Default Re: pocket overpair vs a set?

Bet 2/3 or 3/4 pot so that you can bet more on turn. Sucks to get coolered but its part of the game
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:15 AM
SammyKid11 SammyKid11 is offline
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Default Re: pocket overpair vs a set?

There is something you can do about this...

Open another SNG.

Seriously, in short-stacked tournament structures like online SNG's, you are going to get eliminated early in some of them. You have to play the hand in a way that will make you the most money long-term. AA and KK are extremely difficult to lay down at any point in a SNG...unless you have very specific knowledge of your opponent or are facing multiple opponents on a board dangerous to your high pocket pair.

In 100xBB cash games, getting away from hands like these are a little easier. In SNG's, with the pressure or rising blinds chipping away at a stack you need to grow at any positive opportunity, it's extremely hard. Just part of the game.
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