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Old 06-04-2007, 10:13 AM
GiantBuddha GiantBuddha is offline
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Default QQ on button in live 5/5 game in rereraised pot. 522 flop.

Live $5/5 game ($1000 cap). The game's usually pretty crazy, but it's playing rather tight right now. SB is an older gentleman who is pretty solid, not tricky, and knows that I play very tight. Effective stacks are $1000.

Preflop: I have Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Folded to CO who raises to $25, I raise to $75, SB raises to $150, CO folds, I call.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot:$335)

SB bets $200.
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: QQ on button in live 5/5 game in rereraised pot. 522 flop.

What does his pf 4-bet mean? If he's tight and not very tricky, a fold might be good.

On the flop I'd probably call, and fold turn if he bets again.
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: QQ on button in live 5/5 game in rereraised pot. 522 flop.

If he is solid and not tricky, he wouldn't reraise a reraise with jacks I don't think. Looks like he has aa,kk. Fold.
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:49 AM
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Default Re: QQ on button in live 5/5 game in rereraised pot. 522 flop.

Difficult situation. The pot became too big preflop.

Question 1: would villain play AK, JJ and TT like this?
If no, you prob have called the reraise PF for set-value. The answer then is easy: muck.
Question 2: are you willing to stack off?
If no, the answer is easy: muck.

If we got a yes on both questions:

I would probably raise AI and be sic when villain turns over KK or AA.

reasoning:
- A raise to 500 and you have to call a push (only 350 more).
- A flatcall and there's 735 in the pot with each 650 behind: no way we can fold unless an ace or king hits.

Lets face it: we don't want to see a turn.

Did this help?

Jay.
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Old 06-04-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: QQ on button in live 5/5 game in rereraised pot. 522 flop.

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A flatcall and there's 735 in the pot with each 650 behind: no way we can fold unless an ace or king hits.

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I disagree with this.

If villain isn't very tricky he very well might bet AK/JJ/TT and check the turn.
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Old 06-04-2007, 11:21 AM
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Default Re: QQ on button in live 5/5 game in rereraised pot. 522 flop.

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Question 1: would villain play AK, JJ and TT like this?
If no, you prob have called the reraise PF for set-value. The answer then is easy: muck.

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I was pretty sure he would not play JJ, TT or AK this way. If I thought he would, though, what would my play be? Push or just call? I lean towards pushing, but I can't see getting much more value against these hands.

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Question 2: are you willing to stack off?
If no, the answer is easy: muck.

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If I think I have the best hand, sure. I called preflop for set value, so I folded.
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