show me what to do - nl200

[n1nj4.br]

villian is tag (tight side) and no history.

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
4 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $160.60
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $212.30</font>
UTG: $163.40
BTN: $406.75

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8</font>, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, BTN calls $20

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($54) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero?

[good_gamble]

Bet $45, fold to raise and give up if called unless turn is club or 5 (in which case shove). If turn is red T, I prolly check.

[Simo_8ball]

That isn't a good flop for you because it hits a large proportion of his expected range.

Your draw isn't too strong either because you don't want a spade to come, and the 10 gives you the ignorant end. Even the three offsuit 5's don't give you the nuts.

Still, I would take a bet/fold line of about $40.

[Womble]

If he is tight then why 3bet PF?

I b/f here but dont know if that is right

Hope your not considering c/c though

[TwistedEcho]

Just because he raised the button and you have some semiplayable hand doesn't mean you have to checkraise. Preflop you can just fold.

Having not folded, bet whatever your normal amount here is ~45 for me and if he pushes fold, if he calls shove any 5 turn, most clubs, and check if turn is a T (Ts you should shove)

[n1nj4.br]

There's nothing wrong with pf, get over it.

How bad is betting pot and calling shove?

[TwistedEcho]

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There's nothing wrong with pf, get over it.



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lol i 3bet as much as the anyone at 200nl, but when you give a read someone is tight, i don't get why you decide to repop. I mean if you posted villian is multitabling tag with 22/18/3 stats or whatever it makes more sense, but you are going to have to play OOP with a tricky hand. Unless you think hes going to just fold preflop enough of the time, its not worth it.

[TwistedEcho]

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How bad is betting pot and calling shove?

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its almost certainly -EV, but looks pretty close actually. Put him on a range and pokerstove it.

[n1nj4.br]

Looks like its close to 0EV.

If we add the fact that he will fold pf/flop a good % of time, plus metagame, it's +EV imo.

And again, i think theres nothing wrong with pf. Reraising QQ+/AK only is bad. That doesnt mean that i'll repop any sc against his otb steal, but yes, i'll repop light every once in a while.

[TwistedEcho]

Preflop is fine IF you have a reason for it, i mean if you just looked down at 67c and thought 'oh i'd like to play this hand, calling OOP kinda sucks so i think i'll just repop and see what happens' is bad - but if you saw hes a 20/18/3 and figured his range is huge enough that he folds a good % of the time, and you have a playable hand if he calls then sure raising is fine.

But if hes one of those players who has a small enough range that hes going to 4bet here a ton (or call to trap you with QQ+) OR he doesn't like folding then i think preflop is spew.