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Old 10-12-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

Villain is 41/2/2.1 by 190 hands.


Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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UTG: $21.01
MP: $38.52
CO: $22.59
BTN: $28.19
SB: $25.54
Hero (BB): $25

Pre-Flop: K 2 dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($1.10) 2 A 7 (4 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.75</font>, UTG calls $0.75, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.50</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.50</font>, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($18.85) 9 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $9.25</font>, Hero calls $9.25

Results: $37.35 Pot ($2.36 Rake)

I know, something is wrong here with my game, but what is it?
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

meh, fold river
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

I really can't see what this guy is checking with on the flop and then 4-beting with on the turn. That river bet looks like a value bet big time, it looks like he knows he's got you...Slow played kings maybe?

Probably a fold, don't think he is doing this with a worse hand.

Really curious to know what he had...
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

God forbid CO ever raise, this makes me think he has a PP or a mid/semi strong (possibly suited) A.

Turn is fine up until his re min raise I think we've established that yes, CO does prolly have set (77?). Though his min donk makes us call this.

i c/f river too, There are a lot of hands that now beat our weak 2pr. (22, 77, Ax(2pair, etc)
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:39 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

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I really can't see what this guy is checking with on the flop and then 4-beting with on the turn. That river bet looks like a value bet big time, it looks like he knows he's got you...Slow played kings maybe?

Probably a fold, don't think he is doing this with a worse hand.

Really curious to know what he had...

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I would bet he limped with A rag and made a better 2 pair. Thats what it looks like, unless a set. Strange line for villian. either way I let him have it with that river bet.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

why no fold to turn rr
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

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meh, fold river

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$9 to win $28???? with 3:1 and 2p in this game, I NEVER fold here.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

I guess since villain is really passive, he could of easily limped with AK here as well as the other A rag hands that made 2 pair on the flop.

Nairb is probably right.
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Old 10-12-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

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meh, fold river

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$9 to win $28???? with 3:1 and 2p in this game, I NEVER fold here.

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Even after the wierd 4-bet on the turn? What can we beat here besides an ace?
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: 2 pair vs aggression, 25nl

When he reraised to $8.50 on the turn, I think calling is the worst option. You have four outs to a full house so, on the river, you will hit only about one in twelve times.

I think you either shove or fold after the reraise to $8.50 on the turn. Based on his position as the CO, I think he played the flop the way a lot of players would with a set.

He was next to last to act after the flop and may have been afraid that if he raised, then the button might not have an A so he would fold, and then everyone else would fold also.

If he had a set then your bet on the turn was exactly what he wanted to see, so he started raising.

I would have folded when he raised to $8.50 unless I had seen him making a lot of late bluffs or raising with weak hands on the turn and river.
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