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Old 08-18-2007, 08:01 AM
Soeren Soeren is offline
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Default Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

I always 3 bet these hands in late position because I like to get heads up and shut out the blinds. Should I ?

I saw an article (cant find it again). Stating that you should only cold call because this is such a strong hand which wants more people in the pot, I dont know [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 08-18-2007, 08:28 AM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

3-bet. You don't want to play a multiway pot with hands like these if you can prevent it.
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

You can't go wrong with always 3betting. Under specific circumstances coldcalling with just the raiser in the pot can be OK sometimes.
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Old 08-18-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

Stox makes an argument for calling with KK and AA in the SB when facing a steal and with a tight BB. I guess in similiar situations when you are OTB with tight blinds you can coldcall.

The problem is that for balance you need to coldcall other hands as well.

As a default you should just 3-bet at low stakes and dont get fancy.

Up to and at 5/10 you win by playing ABC. Not by playing fancy pants poker.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:15 PM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

I think Oink nailed it. You need to have other coldcalling hands. Personally I almost never coldcalls so if I were to begin coldcalling only AA and KK it would be easy to exploit for an observant opponent.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

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Up to and at 5/10 you win by playing ABC. Not by playing fancy pants poker.

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That's true. For some reason though I'm always trying things like advanced protection plays and free showdown raises. I usually end up saying "well, it was a good raise in theory."
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

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The problem is that for balance you need to coldcall other hands as well.

As a default you should just 3-bet at low stakes and dont get fancy.

Up to and at 5/10 you win by playing ABC. Not by playing fancy pants poker.

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These statements are contradictory.
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Old 08-18-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

I'm guessing the article referenced in the OP is written by someone who has a beginner-level understanding of limit hold'em.

Just 3-bet and let your opponents make bigger mistakes for more chips. If you don't 3-bet, the originial raiser likely won't get the chance to cap against your AA/KK, right?
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:05 PM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

Up to and at 1k/2k you win by playing ABC. Not by playing fancy pants poker.
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Old 08-18-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Not 3 betting AA/KK in late positin

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Stox makes an argument for calling with KK and AA in the SB when facing a steal and with a tight BB. I guess in similiar situations when you are OTB with tight blinds you can coldcall.

The problem is that for balance you need to coldcall other hands as well.

As a default you should just 3-bet at low stakes and dont get fancy.

Up to and at 5/10 you win by playing ABC. Not by playing fancy pants poker.

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even at 10-20 and 15-30 you make more by 3betting.

AQ still calls you down UI even when you 3bet [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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