25NL: 4Bet JJ Now what?

[isucatpokr]

This table is full of Tags. I've been running about 23/19 and people have started 3 betting me, I'm assuming light but I don't know because I have mostly been folding to 3bets. Villain is a multi-tabling TAG, he had just 3 bet me on previous hand.

Absolute Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $12.30
Hero: $34.45
CO: $51.25
Button: $8.95
SB: $93.25
BB: $20.40

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $3.5</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $11</font>, CO calls.

The flat call really threw me off, I was expecting either a fold or push.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($22.35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $11</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $25.75
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Was betting the flop correct? Once I bet, can I fold my over pair? <font color="black"> </font>

[Suited_Queens]

I think this is really read dependent. Ive seen people do this with AA but also AK. He might have AK with the heart or he might already have you crushed, I would check and fold the flop to any bet after the preflop flat call, especially on this board.

With your flop bet the pot goes to $33 and its only $15 more so I guess you have to call? (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

[mitsu1775]

i'm probably shutting down unless i really hit the flop....once you bet you are basically committing yourself. As played you would have more discipline than i do to fold after betting here, but I'm guessing i would be looking at an overpair with a heart.

[ynotraise]

Tough Spot.

The flat call also kinda throws me off as well.

I suppose these are the hands I would put him/her on:
JJ+.. A(h)k (maybe..)

Basically it's likely that an overpair greater then yours is present here. That is what I feel anyway. At this point you only have $12.45 left (?). His minimum raise looks like a ploy to not appear extremely strong like I think he is.

I don't know though. I could be entirely off. I think you're probably beat in this spot.

I think if he had A(h)K, he may have just shoved the flop hoping to get you out. The minimum raise looks like it's begging for a call.

[Suited_Queens]

@ynotraise Villain is putting hero all in, its not a minraise.

Villain is not reraising without AK+heart or a pair bigger than yours, I think you should have check/folded the flop after the flat call preflop, especially without a heart in your hand.

[ynotraise]

Right right. My bad. Guess I kept reading that as $22 for some reason.

Thanks for the correction.
I think after your flop bet as someone else stated, you were basically committed. I like Suited_Queens c/f.

[cowboy billy]

yes, I'm check folding this flop as well

fwiw I'd bet/fold this flop if it were rainbow

[prodonkey]

4 betting JJ out of position is going to be spew most of the time. Usally a flat call preflop there from them means AA/KK

[cowboy billy]

I agree that you're going to see AA/KK a lot after his flat call and I usually don't 4-bet JJ pre flop in this spot either