Bottom set on on a very dry board, 4 players to the flop

[Jackal69]

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3- PEOPLE WITH LOW POST COUNTS WHO DO NOT PLAY IN THESE GAMES - NO ONE [censored] CARES WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY. DO YOU THINK YOUR ADVICE IS USEFUL?? YOU CANT EVEN BEAT 1/2 NL SO WHY DO YOU THINK WE CARE WHAT YOU WOULD DO IN THIS SPOT? EITHER ASK HELPFUL QUESTIONS TO FOSTER DISCUSSION OR STICK TO LURKING AND POSTING IN THE STRATEGY FORUMS WHERE YOUR ADVICE WILL BE HELPFUL.



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Mods pls sticky and put at top of forum with big flashing lights surrounding...

[Jackal69]

wow this spot sucks... can you persuade him to post the hand on 2p2 like the daut vs hotmark one? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Post-Oak]

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wow this spot sucks... can you persuade him to post the hand on 2p2 like the daut vs hotmark one? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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OK, I'm not sure if people thought I was kidding, but the results I posted were real.

The BB had KK, and the button had a straight draw (56). I PMed rojosox and that is what he told me.

[Dustin D]

ilvdnl is pretty laggy sometimes, but also very very good. You guys are making some good theoretical arguments but I still dont believe any of u are folding

[tomahawk]

The way I see it there are three extremely long shots here that would dictate this postflop action if button doesnt have a set.

-In the wildest, craziest, stupidest preflop play of the year, button decides to slowplay AA preflop, and BB has KK/QQ. (<1%)

-Feeling like trying out a new groundbreaking strategy, button turns a medium sized overpair that is probably no good into a tiny bluff to represent a set so that the donk will fold his bigger pair and the other guy will fold whatever he has. (<1%)

-Same as above, only button has air and decides this is his only shot to win the pot and its sooo big and maybe the other guys have nothing too or is good/bad enough to fold if they do have something. (still not breaking 5% i think)

Seems like a clear fold, although now im sure i'll be proven wrong because of the sarcastic tone of my post.

[EmpireMaker2]

Anyone who is saying call hasnt played in this certain game.

[Poker monkey]

I know this is a complete newbie thing to say, but isn't the OP going to tell us what happened? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Villain had 56s (straight draw).

Hero folded, duece hit the turn (nuts for button) and BB lost his stack with KK.

[mickeyzee]

I don't know if a fold is correct and I'm not going to try to analyze whether it is. I am by no means an expert or HSNL player. But if you decided on taking this hand all the way, wouldn't another flop call be better than a shove? If the button doesn't have an over set, shoving gives him and the BB a chance to make a correct decision and fold. A shove would signal to them your most likely holding is a set from the ragged board, "weak" flop call and then sudden strength. But after a call, the turn betting would probably go check, check, bet which I assume would be all-in for about 3400 making the pot around 12,000. If the BB calls, you reraise all-in(not much left) or so and you have a huge pot. If he folds it can still give you an opportunity to fold(which would be hard given the pot odds) I'm not saying this is the best move, I just think it should be either fold on the flop or play it out on the turn.

[Orlando Salazar]

I only read the title. Open shove now!