Another lost QQ hand

Profish2285 · #1 11-17-2007, 01:02 PM

Sorry no stats again, I have to start to datamine. Not sure what is standard here as I just moved up from uNL.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($126.05)
MP ($165.45)
Hero ($102.60)
Button ($106.10)
SB ($103.05)
BB ($37.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $3.5, Hero raises to $13, 2 folds, BB raises to $38.9 (All-In), MP calls $34.40, Hero....

Moemar · #2 11-17-2007, 01:16 PM

You need data or a read of some kind to make this decision!

Against average players, I guess I would reluctantly shove. Reluctantly. ewwww.

Moemar · #3 11-17-2007, 01:18 PM

wait, I am having second thoughts...Is MP just smooth calling rockets? ewwww. This situation is gross.

Profish2285 · #4 11-17-2007, 01:19 PM

So youre doing what then, folding? I didnt think calling was an option but then again I was completely lost. I thought shoving here was best at first seeing as how these games play alot more aggro than what Im used to.

Jeans · #5 11-17-2007, 01:19 PM

I could see a fold if MP is a reasonable player, I don't think he is calling that push with QQ+ and AK, but if MP is some donk I would shove

Profish2285 · #6 11-17-2007, 01:21 PM

A reasonable player wouldnt be trying to get it in with KK or AA though?

AlanDyer · #7 11-17-2007, 01:50 PM

i'd shove all in.. why does the guy just flat call? strange

Moemar · #8 11-17-2007, 02:27 PM

Gosh man, I think i am shovin' most of the time.

I would throw it away against a precious few opponents. But against most guys, I feel like I gotta push.

But that smooth call of your three bet seems so much like an AA move....has me worried. But i still push.

Moemar · #9 11-17-2007, 02:29 PM

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i'd shove all in.. why does the guy just flat call? strange

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I shove too, but it is strange. Wouldn't he take that same line with AA? His AA push is less profitable than a smooth call, with a raise on the flop.

If he is some chump, it's definite shove. That is why a read on who he is seems important.

jk3a · #10 11-17-2007, 02:46 PM

shove