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11-28-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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[ QUOTE ] What was your plan if you didn't flop huge? [/ QUOTE ] i think this is potentially a more interesting question. it's not a set, but it's a flop that puts your 6's in the lead. you calling preflop purely for set/stack value? anything else, i have to think, is a clear clear c/f, correct? [/ QUOTE ] given [ QUOTE ] I'm 95% certain that villian either has JJ+ or AK. [/ QUOTE ] then ya 
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11-28-2007, 04:17 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
obviously i'm calling only for set value but getting a flop like this was exactly part of the gameplan.
What do you guys think about his bet size? Don't you think he'd bet 800ish with AK instead a full pot? Bad players don't pot with AK. Speaking of his bet size... Here's a hand villian spewed. He only bet 1/2 pot with his 4's here... he raises button or co to 175, sb repops, he calls. He has 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Flop is 48Jccx (post is ~1200). sb checks, he bets 650, sb c/r's to 2100. He thinks and shoves for 1900 or so more. Sb calls with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and a pair of 4's scoops. (this is online btw, not live)
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11-28-2007, 04:55 PM
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Re: pair + draw vs spewtard
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obviously i'm calling only for set value but getting a flop like this was exactly part of the gameplan. What do you guys think about his bet size? Don't you think he'd bet 800ish with AK instead a full pot? Bad players don't pot with AK. Speaking of his bet size... Here's a hand villian spewed. He only bet 1/2 pot with his 4's here... he raises button or co to 175, sb repops, he calls. He has 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Flop is 48Jccx (post is ~1200). sb checks, he bets 650, sb c/r's to 2100. He thinks and shoves for 1900 or so more. Sb calls with K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and a pair of 4's scoops. (this is online btw, not live) [/ QUOTE ] OMG, I'm such a newb. The whole time I was thinking this is 10/20 NL. Considering stacks are 120 bbs, it's an easy check-shove. Even if we lower his ratio of AK to JJ+ from 2 out of 5 times to 1 out of 4 times [which is generous], this is still an easy check-shove. As for the example you just gave, it's different because in this one, he didn't have the lead on pre-flop so on the flop, he bets to "see where he is at." On the hand versus you, he has the lead and will be more likely go berserko.
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