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Old 11-18-2007, 02:29 AM
dboy23 dboy23 is offline
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Default Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

to clarify, the game I need to adjust to is one where the SB acts first pf and postflop.

The most obvious adjustment to me would seem to be playing a lot tighter in the SB.

In a normal HU limit game I play raise/fold otb. Should I be limping the SB at all in this backwards structure?

I'm also thinking since the BB has position the whole hand I can 3bet people alot more on average.

Any other advice for this structure?
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Old 11-18-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

In a structured game like limit hold em , the problem with having a raise or fold strategy oop is that you don't have any fold equity even when you do raise . In any case , I limp more often in situations where I'll be oop post-flop . So a hand like 10-9 may not necessarily be worth a raise pre-flop when oop .

Just to give you a little perspective . Greg Raymer has said in a past archive that he prefers to raise oop with hands that have an equity of 55% against a random hand .

Hands like : j-10 ,k-7, q-9 , etc .

However , you should be willing to raise pre-flop with some garbage hands to remain undetectable .
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Old 11-18-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

that is a dumb way to play hu
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

dboy looks like i didn't add it to my favorites (very strange) but i remember guruman writing an *excellent* post on this
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Re: Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

So you want to tighten up in the SB by only playing your top 60% or so. Depending on your opponent's range from the SB you want to defend almost everything from the button (minimum top 80% against normal player).

I would only limp against the most passive of opponents but most of the time I'm raising or folding.

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Old 11-18-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

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to clarify, the game I need to adjust to is one where the SB acts first pf and postflop.

The most obvious adjustment to me would seem to be playing a lot tighter in the SB.

In a normal HU limit game I play raise/fold otb. Should I be limping the SB at all in this backwards structure?

I'm also thinking since the BB has position the whole hand I can 3bet people alot more on average.

Any other advice for this structure?

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this structure tilts me so hard. it is just partypoker that uses it right? so dumb
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:01 PM
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that is a dumb way to play hu

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Then what is the right play ?

Raising with junk when you'll be oop for the entire hand ?

You do realize that the structure Dboy is talking about is applicable to ring games when the bb has position over the sb .
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

I don't know much about limit but in NL if ur IP u should better call than 3bet PF. On the other hand OOP u should 3bet more to diminish the position advantage.

Can someone explain to me why limit is not like that?
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Help me adjust to big blind gets the button limcash

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I don't know much about limit but in NL if ur IP u should better call than 3bet PF. On the other hand OOP u should 3bet more to diminish the position advantage.

Can someone explain to me why limit is not like that?

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basically because no one gets respect in limit so 3bets pf aren't as effective in limit as NL especially when you are 3betting alot.
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Old 11-19-2007, 12:17 AM
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dboy looks like i didn't add it to my favorites (very strange) but i remember guruman writing an *excellent* post on this

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I thought I remember a post about this too but the seach failed me. If anyone can help me find it I would love it.
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