55 UTG

[baltostar]

Even at the loosest table an UTG shove is not going to get looked up by *any* PP, unless it's a short stack. Even if they do, it's only around 30% that anyone has a PP better than 55.

When considering shove/fold, I think a lot of players place too much emphasis on position because they're worried about running into AK or a big PP. Position is important, but the likelihood of players having JJ+, AK is pretty low, less than 20% even for shoving into nine players.

Fold equity is what it's all about: they fear you have exactly what you have, a PP, against which any two unpaired cards is a dog and they will fold unless short. And if they have a PP, they typically have no clue regarding your PP range, and unless short most will over-fold, worried about being a 4.5:1 dog.

I don't worry so much about position here. My M is at the inflection point where where soon my stack utility will be taking really big hits and I will be hamstrung. My advantage is that I anticipate that reality ahead of my opponents and the poker gods have given me a PP at just the right moment. I must pursue my advantage.

[Poopy_Pants]

betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

[0evg0]

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betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

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as bad as betgo is, you're 5 million times more terrible based on your first post in this thread.

i don't mean that to be demeaning, everyone has to start somewhere.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...mp;Board=tourn

this is probably a better place for you to start.

[Poopy_Pants]

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betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

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as bad as betgo is, you're 5 million times more terrible based on your first post in this thread.

i don't mean that to be demeaning, everyone has to start somewhere.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...mp;Board=tourn

this is probably a better place for you to start.

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u still playing 50nl evg? your too funny. i played daily with betgo on stars. hu 4 rolz evg?

[Hattifnatt]

depends on table/avg stack/how near bubble or itm etc. obv but usully a fold in my book.

[0evg0]

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betgo u sound like a 3 year old thats never played an mtt before. need chips to win then shove. why are you playing a pot from utg???????

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as bad as betgo is, you're 5 million times more terrible based on your first post in this thread.

i don't mean that to be demeaning, everyone has to start somewhere.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/po...mp;Board=tourn

this is probably a better place for you to start.

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u still playing 50nl evg? your too funny. i played daily with betgo on stars. hu 4 rolz evg?

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no, i haven't played 50nl since i first learned how to play 6-max.

and i don't really care if you play with betgo daily, everyone on this forum does.

if this is a dick-waving contest though, i'll bow out because i'm sure i'm no good compared to someone who knows "how many orbitals" betgo has left (???)