Article on WinHoldEm Bot in Wired (link)

[sprezzatura]

So, these must be semi-effective for there to be a strong community of users. The collusion is especially annoying...sigh...

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/13.09/pokerbots.html

That's just depressing. I can't figure out how the developer lives with his conscience. All this "civil disobedience" crap is just plain BS. He's simply out to destroy online poker.

[Cauldron]

Either way I still don't like playing online because there is always that shred of doubt that the game isn't 100% fair, and this just further confirms that. I'm fortunate to live very close to Atlantic City, but I realize that for many people the only option for a game is online. In a casino you know that what happens is a true random event, but you can't say that for online regrettably.

[can_dollars]

Hopefully karma takes care of this guy.

if not maybe some offshore poker execs finance the hit [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[sprezzatura]

Here's a funny post on their forums that references the 2 + 2 forums here:

http://www.winholdem.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=477

Looks like we're doing our part to stop teaming! [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[WayAbvPar]

I wish I had the skilz to send some horrifying virus to each and every winhold'em user.

[hecubus]

I wonder what would happen if all 2+2ers posted at his site at the same time. Lengthy messages, donchaknow. Nah, his server probably couldn't handle it............

[krimson]

A guy in reference to teamplay:

"...guess i have morale problems although i love the bot it is just an extention of yourself..."

Lol, talk about self delusion. The bot is just "an extension of yourself".

[ZimbuTheMonkey]

"Bornert had no ethical qualms about creating a poker bot. The way he saw it, the poker sites were duping people into believing that a game of hold 'em online was as safe and secure as one at any casino in Vegas. "The reality is that the game changed the moment it moved to the Internet," Bornert says. Bots and bot-aided collusion were inevitable. Rather than seduce anyone into thinking such things didn't exist, Bornert had another notion: Put the power in the players' hands. By democratizing computer-assisted firepower, he'd make it part of the competition. "It's like football - if you don't wear a helmet and pads, you're going to get hurt," he says. "A poker bot is your equipment." And if that is considered unethical, then so be it. "I'd rather be unethical than be a victim," he says. "This is intentional civil disobedience."

So, according to him, we should all go out and rob houses, cause we are all potential victims of theft. What a douchebag...

[JRussell]

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In a casino you know that what happens is a true random event, but you can't say that for online regrettably.

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Yeah, nobody has ever cheated in a casino card room. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]