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Old 11-02-2007, 02:10 AM
tempoman tempoman is offline
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Default NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

This guy was seeing about 11% of flops thru 30 hands, fairly passive post-flop

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
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MP: $9.85
CO: $5.05
Hero (BTN): $8.10
SB: $3.05
BB: $11.55
UTG: $9.85
UTG+1: $11.15

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets $0.30</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.60</font>, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.70) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.40</font>, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to $0.80</font>, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($3.30) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG+1 bets $9.65 and is All-In</font>, Hero ?


Go ahead, make fun of this trainwreck.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:24 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

Raise preflop.
Bigger raise on flop.
Turn, make a real bet.
River, call. Your hand looks like Jx not Tx.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:30 AM
tempoman tempoman is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

So if I bet $1.50 on the turn, and he pushes, would I then give it up?
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:31 AM
Micro Donk Micro Donk is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

a sudden influx of people asking if they should fold the 2nd/3rd nuts on the river...
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:36 AM
Scapegote Scapegote is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

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Go ahead, make fun of this trainwreck.

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Ok, if you insist.

Seriously though, raise more on the flop. Bet more on the turn. Call the river. Whine and moan to some friend if he shows any hand that beats you.

Seriously, don't min-raise, ever. And don't bet .40 into a $1.7 pot with a good but vulnerable hand.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

I'm guessing he had AA, KK, QQ or 66 played horribly and you got stacked. Nothing you can do here. Just call and accept the loss on the like 2% of the time that it actually is a loss. You're making a bunch of money here in the long run.

And yeah, especially on the button this is an easy raise PF and the betting throughout the hand is pretty bad.
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:43 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

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So if I bet $1.50 on the turn, and he pushes, would I then give it up?

[/ QUOTE ] Using your read on him as a passive postflop player then yes, fold. When you make more normal sized raises then you should get a clearer idea of what it means when an opponent raises you. In the actual hand your turn bet was small and you seem scared/weak. This makes opponents consider taking shots at you and leaves you guessing.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:21 AM
anthb7210p anthb7210p is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

as played river is snapcall. May want to raise more on flop to charge KQ, 89.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:34 AM
czGLoRy czGLoRy is offline
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

like others said, except only JJ and 66 beat you, you have the third nuts, easy call. Raise most of the time preflop, bet a lot more on flop, bet more on trn, snap call river.
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: NL10 - Flop top 2 and then?

snap call at 1000NL so snap call at 10NL?
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