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Old 06-25-2007, 03:19 PM
Poker_is_Hard Poker_is_Hard is offline
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Default Re: 200NL I try to get value and he minraises me.

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Check raising exposes the strength of your hand and therefore allows you to get a read on his hand base on his reaction.

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So you're raising for information? Ugh. Really. Ugh. If you raise, it should either be as a bluff to get better hands to fold (no way he folds AA or KK here to a flop raise), or to get value from worse hands (unlikely he calls a flop raise with pairs less than a queen).

If you raise this flop, you're folding out worse hands and getting called by better ones. You're also bloating the pot out of position with two streets of betting to go when you have a solid hand you'd like to show down in a medium size pot. Not good.

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When you C/C and then lead, you have allowed the hand to move to the turn and you still have no idea where you stand.

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Nonsense. Put villain on a range of hands. Play poker. When you lead turn, you're going to get called a fair amount by worse hands thinking you're just messing with them as well as sometimes by a draw when villain raised with a suited connector or suited ace. Better hands will sometimes call, sometimes raise. Worse hands will almost never raise unless villain is absolutely blufftastic. That's a much better situation, on a later street, for the same price as raising the flop.

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I am raising to take control of a pot. I believe I have the best hand and want to accurately display that to my opponent. I view C/C and leading as a “tricky” way to play TPTK, taking lines such as this I believe puts you in marginal situations were it is harder to make a decision. This thread case in point, when he raises you on the turn, are you ahead or behind??

If he calls your check raise, you have at least taken control of the pot on the flop and can take action based on the turn card. If he repops your check raise, you know you are most likely behind and can fold.
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