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Old 04-27-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Set of queens. Tough river spot.

Villains is 40/13/2.5

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $20.95
<font color="black">Hero (BB): $38.95</font>
UTG: $31.15
CO: $33.60
BTN: $29.50

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, BTN calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, BTN calls $1, SB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($2.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2</font>, BTN calls $2

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($6.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $6.25</font>, Hero calls $6.25

<font color="black">River:</font> ($19.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all-in for $20</font>, Hero...
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Old 04-27-2007, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

Bet the turn, please.
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

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Bet the turn, please.

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Agreed. A check/call doesn't do much for you. What is the best line on this turn- bet/call?
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:06 AM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

C4ll what do you intend to do facing a raise?
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:16 AM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

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C4ll what do you intend to do facing a raise?

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Tough spot, but I don't think he's aggro enough to stick his stack in on the turn on a scare-card bluff. I'd probably bet like 5-5.50 and fold to a turn shove, and not be happy about it.

The way this hand played out, it looks like he has something decent (maybe TPGK, two pair) and is trying to protect. But it probably would have gone down a lot differently had we bet out on the turn.
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

Ok, so I played the turn the way I did.

But what about the river?
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Old 04-27-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

Alright 2+2 has been weird but...the river looks value-ish but I don't know enough about this villain to determine whether or not this is two pair or 55/99. I'd probably fold.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

a semi relative thread:

here
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

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C4ll what do you intend to do facing a raise?

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Tough spot, but I don't think he's aggro enough to stick his stack in on the turn on a scare-card bluff. I'd probably bet like 5-5.50 and fold to a turn shove, and not be happy about it.

The way this hand played out, it looks like he has something decent (maybe TPGK, two pair) and is trying to protect. But it probably would have gone down a lot differently had we bet out on the turn.

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I think you should check-raise all-in on the turn. Villain will call if he has a flush or AA, but we are beating every other hand, including hands that have the bare A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], and have 22% equity even if we are behind. If he has 55 or 99, then he will call mistakenly trying to fill.

If he checks behind the turn, it's not the end of the world since he probably does not have a flush and your action would have probably been killed anyway.

In the end, this check-raise will be a value raise a good percentage of the time and will make your hand extremely easy to play on the river since there is no more money left to bet.
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Old 04-27-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Set of queens. Tough river spot.

Orange, I think those are two great threads, but being OOP really complicates things here. CRAI seems like an interesting option, and I'd like to hear some other opinions on lines for this hand.
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