KQo on the button...facing a push and an extreme shortie in the BB...

[Popped Rod]

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Also if anyone has an idea what range BB should be stacking off with vs 2 AI I'm all ears.

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I'm not sure what range your BB would call with, but if it was me...and I was already ITM...and shortstacked....and getting 6:1 pot odds (has to call t1850 in main pot of t11k+)...I'm in with any pair, any suited connectors and suited 1 gappers too.

[JoeyJoJo Shabadu]

Really something else to consider which is better odds... that he got KK then next hand KK QQ AA AK AQ, or he's tilting. I say 90% of the time it's tilt or SS M play, and then you have odds to get it in there..

[JokerArmy]

Joey- SB is inconsequential in the hand...but for arguments sake (in case I'm wrong [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ):

SB has ~t35,000 playing standard TAG

- JA

[sharkscopeaholic]

His M is 3 and yours is about 5-6 so he could be pushing any two but in internet tournies 5-6 isnt absoultely terrible and one double up probly puts you ahead of the avg stack so you can wait here for a better hand. KQ looks pretty but like others said its much better to push it then call with it (for over half your stack).

[JokerArmy]

Stoved it...

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

297,900,483,804 games 811.031 secs 367,310,847 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hero: 36.876% 35.46% 01.41% 105646366892 4208137547.67 { KsQd }

Villian 1: 33.030% 31.53% 01.50% 93913561944 4482451134.67 { 22+, A2s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, A5o+, K8o+, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 98o, 87o }

BB: 30.094% 28.70% 01.40% 85487729256 4162237029.67 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A2o+, K7o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o }

Anybody wanna tweak it.

- JA

[romdom]

i think i fold to retain some fold equity for resteals, idk, im really nitty.

[Willd]

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Also if anyone has an idea what range BB should be stacking off with vs 2 AI I'm all ears.

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I'm not sure what range your BB would call with, but if it was me...and I was already ITM...and shortstacked....and getting 6:1 pot odds (has to call t1850 in main pot of t11k+)...I'm in with any pair, any suited connectors and suited 1 gappers too.

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I'm not entirely sure what I would do in the original hand although if you were sure he was shoving ~50% of hands I think kq is a shove.

As to what the bb should be calling here facing 2 all ins I'm pretty sure folding anything would be bad. It's not a bubble situation so cEV is fairly close to $EV. If MP is shoving 50% and button is reshoving with 10% then 32o is between 4-1 and 5-1 and you're getting odds of nearly 6-1. This doesn't mean that bb will always be calling with ATC but I'm fairly sure it would be correct to.

[mflip]

You need ~43% equity if BB folds so he'd have to be shoving about 88+,A9+,KT+. Any wider and it's a definite call, tighter and it's a fold.

[hamnegger]

its probably a slightly +ev play if u like to push small edges play. i cant fault either move

[Willd]

Having thought about this hand a little longer I think that a shove is probably correct whether MP is good or tilting, which it sounds like he is.

Against a range of top 20% you're 49% when you only need 43% (assuming bb folds simplifies calculations and doesn't make a big difference I think). That's a pretty big edge to give up and obviously there's a decent chance he's shoving wider if he's tilting which makes it an even easier shove.