Look at the trouble I get myself into

[Entity]

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I think your plan to randomly bluffraise just about any river kinda sucks.

Rob

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lol. game theory yo.

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Someday I'll actually teach Chris that "game theory" is not a euphemism for "trying to win every pot."

[cartman]

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becuz if he is a good postflop player, hes probably not even betting a "bet/folding" hand versus you, with those hands he'd probably check/call vs you.

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Is this specifically because he is afraid that DeathDonkey will bluffraise too much? Otherwise I don't understand this statement.

Can anyone elaborate?

Thanks,
Cartman

[PokerBob]

your line smells like BS and he knows it and now you made your bed and you have to sleep in it. i'd fold.

[DeathDonkey]

Lol this hand is such a spew. Wish I could have found a hand to post that involves this weird river dynamic without me having played the rest of the hand like crap. My point was that his river 3 bet is really strange, I mean is he really going to reraise QJ here? Isn't his range like: straights, sets, hands I beat that are making an elaborate bluff, hands I don't beat that think they are now making an elaborate bluff (like Jx). Anyway yeah the hand sucks but it was just an interesting thing on the river where I felt he was a good player and I raise the most blankiest blank of river cards ever and he pauses to consider for a longggg time online and then goes ahead and 3 bets. Maybe he was just thinking if it was a thin 3 bet with two pair?

I folded so we won't know but it was weird. Shoulda just called.

-DeathDonkey

[PokerBob]

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Lol this hand is such a spew. Wish I could have found a hand to post that involves this weird river dynamic without me having played the rest of the hand like crap. My point was that his river 3 bet is really strange, I mean is he really going to reraise QJ here? Isn't his range like: straights, sets, hands I beat that are making an elaborate bluff, hands I don't beat that think they are now making an elaborate bluff (like Jx). Anyway yeah the hand sucks but it was just an interesting thing on the river where I felt he was a good player and I raise the most blankiest blank of river cards ever and he pauses to consider for a longggg time online and then goes ahead and 3 bets. Maybe he was just thinking if it was a thin 3 bet with two pair?

I folded so we won't know but it was weird. Shoulda just called.

-DeathDonkey

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from his perspective, what do you have that you play this way?

[DeathDonkey]

222? This hand is baddddddddd. Let it die plz [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

-DeathDonkey

[mr pink]

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I suspect a monster or a very weak hand. I call.

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I'd just keep calling then.

[ILOVEPOKER929]

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becuz if he is a good postflop player, hes probably not even betting a "bet/folding" hand versus you, with those hands he'd probably check/call vs you.

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Is this specifically because he is afraid that DeathDonkey will bluffraise too much? Otherwise I don't understand this statement.

Can anyone elaborate?

Thanks,
Cartman

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I have no idea how deathdonkey plays, but I would assume hes a tough aggressive winning player, and I am making the assumption (which may not be warranted) that the villain knows this. I made this assumption becuz good postflop players cannot play that well postflop without paying close attention and using reads to help guide their play.

I think based on the texture of this board and the way this hand has played out, specifically the way Deathdonkey has played his hand, basically representing a passively played showdown-bound hand...The villain is going to have a hand when he bets the river, and if he plays well postflop, I dont think hes going to be bet/folding a better hand on this river versus an aggressive player like Deathdonkey.

[Chris Daddy Cool]

what would be sick is if villian had pocket 2's.

okay dude, calm down and just fold.