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I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
- TwinFives sitting in seat 1 with $161.70
- Mewn87 sitting in seat 2 with $271.71 - Jordan_H sitting in seat 3 with $97.46 [Dealer] - NilPferD sitting in seat 4 with $115.03 - Hero sitting in seat 5 with $96.40 - smox sitting in seat 6 with $55.33 NilPferD posted the small blind - $0.50 Hero posted the big blind - $1.00 ** Dealing card to Hero: King of Clubs, King of Spades smox called - $1.00 TwinFives raised - $5.00 Mewn87 raised - $16.00 Jordan_H folded NilPferD folded Hero... Original raiser is like 20/15 and the 3-betor is LAG:ier, like 25/20. No other reads. I guess I'm not folding, and I hate all options. Calling leaves us in a lot of [censored]: 3-way pot (probably) oop without knowing a [censored]. Raising folds a lot of his worse hands and a shove from his part is almost always AA I guess. |
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
4bet, call shove. Now if you have like 200bbs+ it is interesting, but this is really straightforward imo.
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
4-betting or shoving are both fine. Slight preference for shoving. Folding is just not an option here. It becomes a bit more interesting if you're really deep, or if the original raiser is like 10/5 and being reraised by a another 10/5 or whatever - but as is, this is a very standard and great spot to try to get it in preflop.
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
I think orig raiser could have a very wide range - AK or even worse, any pair etc. Re-raiser's range is narrower but having position on orig raiser still wide including pairs say 10+ AK etc. Of those two ranges you beat everything but AA so I wouldn't even consider folding.
What about call/shove on any non-ace flop and get called by QQ? That or just shove pre-flop and still possibly get called by QQ? Can't fold KK PF for < 100BB find that other thread with all the clever signs in it. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
I prefer raising to 38 or so rather than shoving because you will get a call from AK, whereas if you overbet shove I think AK can fold
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
Raising to $38 in this spot looks INCREDIBLY strong - much much stronger than shoving for certain.
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
I guess it depends on your image. i would raise to 38 here with QQ+ and AK+ against everyone, and it would widen against a light 3bettor
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
I flat this a lot and get it in on most non-ace flops.
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Re: I hate these spots: KK preflop oop facing raise and reraise
You mean you love these spots?
Obviously you lost to AA, but that is just how it goes somethimes. Just raise and don't worry about it. |
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