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Old 11-26-2007, 11:35 PM
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Before the cards were being dealt I would have been willing to bet my whole bankroll he would turn out to be the biggest losing player at the table.

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But I fold this flop myself. Barring that, I like DD's plan.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:40 PM
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Before the cards were being dealt I would have been willing to bet my whole bankroll he would turn out to be the biggest losing player at the table.

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I <3 you, TheDude.

But I fold this flop myself. Barring that, I like DD's plan.

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he is getting at least 15:1 (Emmy doesn't fold overcards), still has the button, and can easily make up 4-6 SB due to his implied odds on the next street. I can't fold if I think Emmy is just calling, the pot is large enough to spike a 4. plus the meta value of catching that card is fantastic... you will get tons of action.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:43 PM
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Before the cards were being dealt I would have been willing to bet my whole bankroll he would turn out to be the biggest losing player at the table.

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I <3 you, TheDude.

But I fold this flop myself. Barring that, I like DD's plan.

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he is getting at least 15:1 (Emmy doesn't fold overcards), still has the button, and can easily make up 4-6 SB due to his implied odds on the next street. I can't fold if I think Emmy is just calling, the pot is large enough to spike a 4. plus the meta value of catching that card is fantastic... you will get tons of action.

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well it is close, but it is not really 15:1 because of the times that emmy raises and you pay 2 bets or the times that emmy raises and UTG 3bets.
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Old 11-26-2007, 11:50 PM
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Before the cards were being dealt I would have been willing to bet my whole bankroll he would turn out to be the biggest losing player at the table.

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I <3 you, TheDude.

But I fold this flop myself. Barring that, I like DD's plan.

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he is getting at least 15:1 (Emmy doesn't fold overcards), still has the button, and can easily make up 4-6 SB due to his implied odds on the next street. I can't fold if I think Emmy is just calling, the pot is large enough to spike a 4. plus the meta value of catching that card is fantastic... you will get tons of action.

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well it is close, but it is not really 15:1 because of the times that emmy raises and you pay 2 bets or the times that emmy raises and UTG 3bets.

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The Dude will know if Emmy is about to raise if he is only slightly observant, it will be obvious. If he suspects a raise then I agree in the muck we go. Emmy is.... obvious.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:33 PM
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The Dude will know if Emmy is about to raise if he is only slightly observant, it will be obvious.

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You make it sound like she's 100% reliable to give away her action, and this isn't even close to being true.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:43 PM
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The Dude will know if Emmy is about to raise if he is only slightly observant, it will be obvious.

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You make it sound like she's 100% reliable to give away her action, and this isn't even close to being true.

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of course not 100% reliable, but if you have any insight that she is raising then you can get out. Emmy has two modes, clearly obvious and non-expressive - catch her during clearly obvious mode at the right time and you will know that she is raising. I rarely play live now but i played with her a ton earlier this year.
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Old 11-27-2007, 06:14 PM
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Of course there will be times when I can catch that she's going to raise, and of course I can fold then. But when she's not giving anything away I can't take that as a sign that she is going to raise.

Don't make retarded comments like The Dude will know if Emmy is about to raise if he is only slightly observant, it will be obvious when the truth is very different. Your comment, to everyone that hasn't played with her, makes it sound like she gives away her action every time, and that that makes this decision super easy.
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