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Old 06-01-2006, 04:32 AM
mic83 mic83 is offline
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Default Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $112.35
UTG+1: $205.50
MP1: $176
MP2: $114.75
CO: $56
Button: $286
SB: $104
Hero: $218.30

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($8, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, 2 folds, SB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($22, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $15</font>, Hero ??

I only have 35 hands on SB and he is something like 22/5/1
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

pop it to 55, you can *probably* fold to 3 bet
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:40 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

"pop it to 55, you can *probably* fold to 3 bet"

I would fold to a 3bet like 100% of the time i think, but how mutch of his range am i ahead of here?
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Old 06-01-2006, 04:58 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

I would smooth call there personally see what he does on river, but most likely call down.
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Old 06-01-2006, 05:10 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

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I would smooth call there personally see what he does on river, but most likely call down.

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Yes, there is nothing wrong with going into cheap showdown mode here and this is not the sort of hand I'd be wanting to make a big pot with. Making a big-ish raise and folding to a reraise, or to a call and bet on the river kinda seems like ensuring you never win at showdown - save that for really strong hands or bluffs.
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Old 06-01-2006, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

Your hand *sucks* against a 22/5 passive...the only thing you're ahead of is AxQh or maybe AxTh.

I call here but strongly consider folding to a real river bet (if he checks, value betting is fine).
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:21 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

Hmm I got some details wrong in my head when I replied...he has Ax here sometimes, too. But Ax will very rarely bet the river and it'll very rarely be a value bet (blocking bet that you can call, maybe.)

This isn't too many hands so I guess you can also call 2/3 on the river solely because your read isn't that strong.
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Old 06-01-2006, 09:53 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

you have less than 10 dollars invested in a hand that can potentially loose you significantly more, you have second best hand way too often here and those loose the most money i would personally either minraise turn representing huge hand hoping he will fold to the smaller 'bluff' or just lay it down o the turn
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Old 06-01-2006, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: Bottom two, all hearts, all broadway flop Nl200

I like just calling on the turn. If he fires the river again significantly (like $30+) I am getting out. Obviously check if he checks.
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Old 06-01-2006, 11:25 AM
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Obviously check if he checks.

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no
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