A,A on button

xerxesthegod · #1 08-06-2007, 06:24 AM

Do you guys three bet this flop or wait for the turn to raise a no straight card???

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises, UTG calls.

River: (9.75 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

sharpie · #2 08-06-2007, 07:31 AM

I'm a waiter, NH.

xerxesthegod · #3 08-06-2007, 07:41 AM

Yeah but since any A,K,Q is kinda killing the action and any J,10,6 are scar cards I was thinking that three betting the flop has more value to it.

sharpie · #4 08-06-2007, 08:06 AM

I wouldn't worry about him folding if you raise a K or Q on the turn, it rarely happens. Even if he does fold he's making a mistake with 5+ outs so it doesn't matter. The fact that J/T/6 are scare cards *for you* is more reason to wait for the turn.

Oink · #5 08-06-2007, 08:27 AM

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I wouldn't worry about him folding if you raise a K or Q on the turn, it rarely happens. Even if he does fold he's making a mistake with 5+ outs so it doesn't matter. The fact that J/T/6 are scare cards *for you* is more reason to wait for the turn.

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Being OOP is not an issue here? I agree that its fine if he bet/folds a 5 outer but its a problem when he checks behind an A, K or Q turn or just takes a free card for some other reason, right?

EDIT: LOL Hero has position. NM!

xerxesthegod · #6 08-06-2007, 08:32 AM

Yeah but what if he checks a K,Q,A ????? We are losing a SB in this situation.

Oink · #7 08-06-2007, 08:38 AM

And calling will save you a SB when he the turn is a card that fills up his draws and win you a SB when he bet/calls a turn brick with a worse hand

Your equity is not that great on the flop so waiting for the turn to see if as brick comes of is fine. He wont always check a A, K or Q turn either.

You played this hand well IMO

sharpie · #8 08-06-2007, 08:41 AM

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Yeah but what if he checks a K,Q,A ????? We are losing a SB in this situation.

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Those are only a certain percentage of the cards that can fall, and he won't always check them, and on any other cards, or even these, where he bets the turn and calls down a raise we make +1SB. There are also other benefits to waiting as mentioned, like if a bad card falls off for you.