Q8o - 0.50/1.00 Stars - Standard?

Goodnews · #1 10-23-2007, 03:28 AM

CO is just terrible. 76/1/0.1 over 300 hands. I havn't seen anyone this bad since the old party poker days.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (5.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Button calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero bets, UTG folds, UTG+2 folds, Button calls.

River: (8.70 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 8.70 BB

Thoughts on all streets.

I think I missed a bet on the river.

sharpie · #2 10-23-2007, 03:38 AM

Flop is pretty spewy. You have a 1 card gutshot and bottom pair on the flop, not enough equity to be pumping. Turn check and hope for a free card. Bet the river.

Fluffy_Shark · #3 10-23-2007, 05:51 AM

don't raise the flop. you have nothing.

when you finally make your hand, betting out is definitely better than checking it down.

Sushiglutton · #4 10-23-2007, 08:48 AM

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Flop: (5.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls, Button calls.

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Why are you making this CR?

Eeegah · #5 10-23-2007, 09:04 AM

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CO is just terrible. 76/1/0.1 over 300 hands. I havn't seen anyone this bad since the old party poker days.

PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Button calls, 1 fold, Hero checks.

Flop: (5.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises

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Sushiglutton · #6 10-23-2007, 09:14 AM

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Bulletproof Monk · #7 10-23-2007, 09:22 AM

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I havn't seen anyone this bad since the old party poker days.

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o rly

KitCloudkicker · #8 10-23-2007, 09:25 AM

two things of note:

1) you spew on the flop
2) you are scared to bet the river, i guess because you dont know what to do when you are raised

good thing is, both of these things are easily fixable. nov session reviews!

LateFlag · #9 10-23-2007, 10:12 AM

When you evaluate that flop, you should realize immediately that your Q outs are fairly dirty and that you won't be able to handle a bunch of action if one should come. That's part of the reason why the flop c/r is so bad; you don't even have your normal number of safe outs on this board.

This isn't being results-oriented knowing that you did in fact catch a Q on the river and were unable to muster the courage to make a routine value-bet. You should have realized that a Q would be a problematic card from the very beginning.

Goodnews · #10 10-23-2007, 10:39 AM

You should be pumping this pot.

1.5 outs for a bdfd, 2 outs for another 8, 3 outs for a Q but it is discounted to 1 out for obvious reasons, and 4 outs fro the gutshot (its a full four because we hold the Qh, if the 9h comes we have a decent redraw).

Thats makes 8 outs giving us equity. So yeah explain please why I shouldn't pump this pot?