10/20 3-way KK on dry board.

[JMa]

Villian is Jackal86, a calling station galore. As there is a shortstack who calls PF for about 1/4 of his stack I think that most ppl (rightly so) would think that I have a legit hand when I bet this flop.

thoughts?

Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) converter

Hero ($2548)
UTG ($2030)
MP ($2535)
CO ($401)
Button ($2153.50)
SB ($2501)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $20, CO calls $20, Button calls $20, SB (poster) completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100</font>, MP folds, CO calls $100, Button folds, SB calls $100.

Flop: ($400) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $350</font>, CO folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $800</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $1550

[KingNeo]

I mean these hands are very difficult to play. You aren't gonna get much outta the responses here.

It is either, yeah that is a fold he has a set or you should push cause you have him beat.

There is not much analysis here. These are def tricky spots. The only way to truly make a correct decision here is if you have some solid reads on your opponents.

[J. Sawyer]

does he raise that flop w/ QQ-99 possibly?

does he raise at all??

[BluffTHIS!]

Although his raise might seem small, he raised a perfect amount so that if called, he could push the turn without overbetting the pot. He wanted you to call.

[ArtVandelay]

If you called the flop, then I assume his turn action would give you some more info. Given that you're making a decision for your stack, isn't it worth paying 450 for that info? After all, there are 24 overpairs and only 9 sets.

[BluffTHIS!]

This is push or fold time, not call and see. Cause all you're gonna see on the turn is an allin bet.

[ArtVandelay]

a "calling station galore" pushes 100% of turns 100% of the time?

[thabadguy]

A)Villian is Jackal86, a calling station galore.

B) shortstack who calls PF for about 1/4 of his stack I think that most ppl (rightly so) would think that I have a legit hand when I bet this flop.

C) He still bombs pot.

The only question is, will he do this with QQ-TT....

[Denutz]

Does anybody else feel that it makes it much less likely that he has TT, JJ, QQ due to the fact that preflop he only completed with 4 limpers behind?

I would expect that JJ or QQ would put in a substantial raise to narrow down the field, but maybe that's just the way I'd play it. It looks a lot more like 88 or 33 to me.

Barring a specific read that he thinks you would make a CB with AK, AQ type of hands, I think this is a fold. I think it's wishful thinking to hope that he decided to do some weird pre-flop limp play with TT-QQ.

[JaBlue]

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This is push or fold time

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cause all you're gonna see on the turn is an allin bet.

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If you are willing to commit yourself to this pot, it doesn't make sense to push if opponent is always pushing turn.