prob a simple hand vs. ben roberts

[FreakDaddy]

On the flop, what are the 2 clubs? Depending on which two that changes villians range a little bit. I mean of course it's still possible he calls with 98 or 78c or whatever, but it factors in a little here.

Your hand is so under-repped here, I dunno. The turn check is debatable, but why not bet/fold river? Do you really think it's not believable that you value bet a set here? I just have a sick feeling he put you on KK.

[James282]

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On the flop, what are the 2 clubs? Depending on which two that changes villians range a little bit. I mean of course it's still possible he calls with 98 or 78c or whatever, but it factors in a little here.

Your hand is so under-repped here, I dunno. The turn check is debatable, but why not bet/fold river? Do you really think it's not believable that you value bet a set here? I just have a sick feeling he put you on KK.

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I think that if he put me on KK a bet of 800 would get the same job done that his all in bet would. On the flop, the Q was a club, and the rag was a club I believe. I mean I think it's reasonable that he could have been bluffing, but bet sizes(smallish turn bet that looks like it doesnt want to scare me, combined with river overbet now that I have shown I have something that can call the turn) seem to dictate otherwise if he is decent.

James

[greg nice]

hrm i wonder if he is the Broberts who used to play on party and now plays on ub

[FreakDaddy]

Well, you check/called the turn and checked the river. It's very viable that you still have a strong enough hand that villian believes you plan on check/calling, so I wouldn't automatically say in villians eyes that you're always folding to a near pot sized bet on the end, but a shove on that board makes a two pair or better hand fall more into the fold category.

In real time, I likely fold here too, but I'd say it's really damn close. I don't know your opponent though either.

[KexChoklad123]

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hrm i wonder if he is the Broberts who used to play on party and now plays on ub

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I've hurd he's Eric Roberts brother

[iRock]

I know the opponent very well and this is a very easy river fold. I'd prob bet/fold the turn against him on turn, but a check call check fold line is also viable. ben plays pretty solid every once in a while getting caught in a big bluff but compared to online pros he is very tight postflop in terms of his aggression.

[csquard]

An interview I did with Ben Roberts this summer during the WSOP. http://pokerworks.com/article-695.html

[Jackal69]

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An interview I did with Ben Roberts this summer during the WSOP. http://pokerworks.com/article-695.html

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cliff notes: famed European cash game player who could teach everyone here a thing or two...

[soon2b]

Bet/fold turn is certainly better than c/c, right?

[cero_z]

Craig,

Great article; thanks for the link.