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Old 11-30-2007, 04:51 PM
pologuy64 pologuy64 is offline
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Default 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

The villian in the hand has shown that he doesnt mind 3-betting me preflop. We got it all in preflop once were he 3 bet me with JJ and i pushed KK and won the hand. With that being said, I still think he is 3-betting me more then he shoudl. Should I be folding, calling, or raising?

Full Tilt Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $442.50
UTG: $537.40
CO: $746.60
Hero (BTN): $921.30
SB: $396

Pre-Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $46</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $32

Flop: ($96) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $84</font>, Hero?
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

I call here
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:52 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

Against constant 3-bettors I am pushing this all day. You're not folding out a better hand but calling will just lead to tough situations and we have equity to back up when we're called.

Basically we have the best hand alot but it's vulnerable and he might continue a bluff or suck out on the turn so I stick it in.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

i shove a fair amount of the time here.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

i'd call, decent draw, best hand, position etc
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

calling is quite bad here due to hating yourself on the turn and river, and your image is perfect for a shove right now given previous hand

shove it like it's 1999
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

calling isn't quite bad here. wondering why you think it is?
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:09 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

calling and calling any non-a/k turn can be good here cuz some ppl get real bluff happy after losing a big pot
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:07 PM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

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calling isn't quite bad here. wondering why you think it is?

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if we assume villain is pfrring light, then i don't think we want him to see a turn card, i think his calling range of our shove includes quite a few draws, and he will sometimes fold a similar hand to ours (though granted not often prob)
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: 2-4NL - When do I take a stand?

if you call and he checks blank turn to you how do you play it? what about if he fires again?
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