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Old 06-03-2007, 06:18 AM
BigRounder9 BigRounder9 is offline
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Default AQ line check

Villain is a bit loose, but not overly aggressive.

PokerStars 5/10 Hold'em (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, A.
Hero raises, UTG+1 3-bets</font>, 8 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (7.40 SB) Q, 5, T (2 players)

Is check/calling to the river an option here or should I bet out and fold to a raise?
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Old 06-03-2007, 06:46 AM
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Default Re: AQ line check

Check-raise flop. Call down to a 3-bet unless board gets sloppy or you have a more specific read.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: AQ line check

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Check-raise flop.

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That does not make sense: I'm either way ahead or way behind. If I'm ahead, a check-raise might scare him away, if I'm behind I'm just throwing money in his pot.

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Call down to a 3-bet unless board gets sloppy or you have a more specific read.

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Sorry, but if a player makes it three bets pre-flop, then three bets post-flop on a dry board, calling him down with a pair of queens is a chip-spew.
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Old 06-03-2007, 07:56 AM
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Default Re: AQ line check

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Check-raise flop.

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That does not make sense: I'm either way ahead or way behind. If I'm ahead, a check-raise might scare him away, if I'm behind I'm just throwing money in his pot.

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Call down to a 3-bet unless board gets sloppy or you have a more specific read.

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Sorry, but if a player makes it three bets pre-flop, then three bets post-flop on a dry board, calling him down with a pair of queens is a chip-spew.

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That's why it's so cool to 3-bet here with JJ [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Something I often do just to check if you really have that queen.

Also, you might check-raise a ghutshot here, and he will call a check-raise with AK. I like it. But that's just me.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: AQ line check

I think you have to lead out on the flop, check/call down to flop aggression.
I dont like going for the c/r on flop, as if villain is not overly aggressive he may check behind with JJ or AK.

Sucks to check and get outdrawn by AK.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: AQ line check

Bet/call the flop. If you check and he bets you still have no idea where your at because he's betting any hand he's willing to three bet with preflop.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Check-raise flop.

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That does not make sense: I'm either way ahead or way behind.

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uh

no
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:56 PM
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Check-raise flop.

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That does not make sense: I'm either way ahead or way behind.

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uh

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Wanna elaborate on that?
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:31 PM
StrictlyStrategy StrictlyStrategy is offline
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AKs

Board: Qh 5c Ts
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.687% 68.08% 00.61% 674 6.00 { AdQc }
Hand 1: 31.313% 30.71% 00.61% 304 6.00 { AsKs }


If he's loose he's probably more capable of 3betting KJ and AJ than you think.

Point is board is draw heavy and there's a good chance villain has 3 pair outs and 4 gutshot outs.
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: AQ line check

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If he's loose he's probably more capable of 3betting KJ and AJ than you think.



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Like I said: Villain is a bit loose, but not overly aggressive. In fact, this was probably the first time I saw him 3-bet preflop. I'm pretty sure he does not have KJ or AJ. AK or an underpair is my best case scenario, but I feel I'm more likely up against AA or KK, especialy after a flop-raise.
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