**Official uNL Microbrew thread: August**

[corsakh]

Loving this [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]



Sklansky only makes it worse

[prodonkey]

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I have the very strong suspicion most people undervalue AK preflop on this forum.

Personally, unless villain is really really tight I'm willing to felt AK(s) preflop.
When I'm oop with AK I pretty much always raise pre. When I'm in position I usually call, and sometimes raise.

Do more people feel that the advice on this forum is generally "fold AK here pre" way too often?

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not sure where u are seeing fold AK prelfop often.. usually the advice is shove vs someones AA or KK. lol

[prodonkey]

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Soul reading 101:

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $136.60
BB: $100.00
UTG: $98.15
Hero (CO): $94.00
BTN: $97.48

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6 Q (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BTN calls $4.00, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($16) 9 4 Q (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $132.60</font>, BB folds, Hero calls all-in for $78.00
Uncalled bet of $42.60 returned to SB

Turn: ($196) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($196) 9 (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $196.00 ($2 Rake)

SB had A 3 (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$94.00)
Hero had 6 Q (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and WON (+$100.00)

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U read his soul.. determined u were a coinflip at best and called.. lol that's such a bad play.

[Gelford]

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Soul reading 101:

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $136.60
BB: $100.00
UTG: $98.15
Hero (CO): $94.00
BTN: $97.48

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6 Q (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BTN calls $4.00, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($16) 9 4 Q (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $132.60</font>, BB folds, Hero calls all-in for $78.00
Uncalled bet of $42.60 returned to SB

Turn: ($196) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($196) 9 (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $196.00 ($2 Rake)

SB had A 3 (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$94.00)
Hero had 6 Q (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and WON (+$100.00)

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U read his soul.. determined u were a coinflip at best and called.. lol that's such a bad play.

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Dude, SSNL is that way -----&gt;

Take your [censored] ego elsewhere

[danny8]

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I have the very strong suspicion most people undervalue AK preflop on this forum.

Personally, unless villain is really really tight I'm willing to felt AK(s) preflop.
When I'm oop with AK I pretty much always raise pre. When I'm in position I usually call, and sometimes raise.

Do more people feel that the advice on this forum is generally "fold AK here pre" way too often?

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when you get 4bet pf at these stakes by an unkown he generally has QQ+, with JJ and AK mixed in there sometimes too. i'd usually fold AK to a 4bet pf unless i know hes 4betting a wider range. ~I need to be shown that a certain villain is 4betting more than QQ+ before ill felt AK. if its bvb vs an agro guy i'd prolly felt though

i raise or 3bet AK pf all the time against an unknown, ip and out

[jonyy6788]

I could look through my entire DB, but that sounds like work....

AK AIPF is generally [censored] at these stakes, but we're getting 1.32:1 if he shoves $50 on a 4bet over our $7 3bet

[ama0330]

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Soul reading 101:

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $136.60
BB: $100.00
UTG: $98.15
Hero (CO): $94.00
BTN: $97.48

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6 Q (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BTN calls $4.00, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($16) 9 4 Q (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $132.60</font>, BB folds, Hero calls all-in for $78.00
Uncalled bet of $42.60 returned to SB

Turn: ($196) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($196) 9 (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $196.00 ($2 Rake)

SB had A 3 (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$94.00)
Hero had 6 Q (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and WON (+$100.00)

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U read his soul.. determined u were a coinflip at best and called.. lol that's such a bad play.

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Dude, SSNL is that way -----&gt;

Take your [censored] ego elsewhere

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ok ok just one more [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

biggest pot of my life so far


Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $175.50
BB: $28.65
UTG: $173.61
MP: $76.55
CO: $98.82
BTN: $83.09

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $4.00</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $13.00</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">UTG raises to $39.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $175.50</font>, UTG calls all-in for $134.61
Uncalled bet of $1.89 returned to Hero

Flop: ($348.22) A 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Turn: ($348.22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($348.22) 3 (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $348.22 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$173.61)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Aces) and WON (+$171.61)

[ama0330]

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Soul reading 101:

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $136.60
BB: $100.00
UTG: $98.15
Hero (CO): $94.00
BTN: $97.48

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6 Q (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, BTN calls $4.00, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($16) 9 4 Q (4 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises all-in to $132.60</font>, BB folds, Hero calls all-in for $78.00
Uncalled bet of $42.60 returned to SB

Turn: ($196) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($196) 9 (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $196.00 ($2 Rake)

SB had A 3 (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$94.00)
Hero had 6 Q (two pairs, Queens and Nines) and WON (+$100.00)

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U read his soul.. determined u were a coinflip at best and called.. lol that's such a bad play.

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yeah I guess I'm just lucky

[Waingro]

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ok, back to the set odds post i made earlier.

i looked at my lifetime DB at 50nl 6max. 209,000 hands. yikes.

anyways, i filtered for 88-22 where i called a raise pf (i don't call 3bets with those hands, unless multiway). and i play fit or fold vast majority of the time, with an occasional flop c/r here and there on dry flops against people who c-bet like crazy.

only looked at 88 so far (206 hands total). no spew in any of the hands except for one where i raised the turn representing whatever and had to fold to the push.

88: 206 hands: net $51

in looking at the hands, a big % of the time i win the pot on the flop. a significant % of the time i can't get value on the turn or river because it's 4 to a straight or 4 of a suit. and so on.

so, for 88 at least, given that i played those hands decently, each 88 hand is worth about $2.50.

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Could you please tell us what % you managed to stack someone? I usually don´t believe in implied odds unless I have a read. Not to say I don´t call raises pf with small pairs, but I usually feel like an idiot.

[Fiksdal]

WHAT... THE... [censored]?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $98.00
BB: $39.00
UTG: $22.50
CO: $123.28
Hero (BTN): $99.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 (5 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.00</font>, Hero calls $3.00, SB folds, BB calls $2.00, UTG calls $2.00

Flop: ($12.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $5.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $96.50</font>, BB folds, UTG calls all-in for $14.50
Uncalled bet of $77.00 returned to Hero

Turn: ($51.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($51.50) 8 (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $51.50 ($2 Rake)

UTG had 5 A (a straight Five to Nine) and WON (+$27.00)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 (three of a kind, Nines) and LOST (-$22.50)