PLO50: Donk bet on the river into king hi flush

[automat]

ok, to promote my super-nit image on this forum, one more hand [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]:

PL $0.25/$0.50 Omaha - Saturday, November 17, 20:32:01 GMT 2007
Table Loire 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: John Rambo ( $127.45 )
Seat 2: Cooler80 ( $52.75 )
Seat 3: lucatt ( $43.83 )
Seat 4: IneverWin84 ( $49.50 )
Seat 5: grudev ( $50 )
Seat 6: automat ( $47.75 )
IneverWin84 posts small blind [$0.25]
grudev posts big blind [$0.50]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to automat [ 7h, 9s, Kc, Ks ]
automat calls [$0.50]
John Rambo calls [$0.50]
Cooler80 calls [$0.50]
lucatt calls [$0.50]
IneverWin84 folds
grudev checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 7d, 4s ]
grudev checks
automat checks
John Rambo checks
Cooler80 checks
lucatt checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
grudev bets [$2.75]
automat calls [$2.75]
John Rambo folds
Cooler80 calls [$2.75]
lucatt folds
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
grudev bets [$11]
hero?


sure, I should´ve raised before the flop. as played, both the flop check and turn call are ok I think, but what´s my river line now that I´ve made the nut flush? more importantly, what hand can sb make that river bet with? is there any hand really that can call a shove?

[CorvusMonedula]

If he bets the turn with a made str8 and flush redraw he could bet the river with non nut flush. You can't assume he's just making this bet with the straight flush... can you?

[I-Love-Poker]

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If he bets the turn with a made str8 and flush redraw he could bet the river with non nut flush. You can't assume he's just making this bet with the straight flush... can you?

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[automat]

no i can´t. but assuming he made a non-nut flush, will he make a pot size bet or rather a small one that can fold to a raise? he has to assume he´s up against str8 and/or flush draws once he gets called in two places on the turn, right?

[CorvusMonedula]

You have a point. Do you have any reads? There certainly possibilities other than a straight flush. Villain might not have thought about what his opponents are holding. He could put both opponents on a bare str8 perhaps - or villain could just be a donk.

If your inner eye is saying straight flush then just call.

[plzbenice]

i guess he doesnt call a raise with worse? then just call.
i mean you re not thinking of folding right?

[DeucesNeverLoses]

insta raise min or go all in its plo 50 cmon

[automat]

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i guess he doesnt call a raise with worse? then just call.
i mean you re not thinking of folding right?

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never ever. i just think i can´t win a lot more but lose a lot more by raising in that spot. not sure wether i´m right in thinking so.

no reads on villain btw.

[automat]

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insta raise min or go all in its plo 50 cmon

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thing is, this being plo50 made me think it´s really, really probable villain would choose the worst option available making the stone cold nuts on the river. i mean, every reasonable player would assume being up against two good draws, hence being able to check-raise one or both of them all-in, making a fold impossible after being comitted. he might bet 1/3-1/2 pot as well feigning weakness and hence inducing a raise he could come over the top of. a bad player would just bet out as he may fear not winning enough money.

wrong?

[RoundTower]

a bad player might also look you up with a lower flush here.