25NL - set but that line is too strong...

[Micro Donk]

opponent around a 60/0 over a tiny sample

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $28.10
BB: $21.85
UTG: $21.50
CO: $19.20
BTN: $26.90

Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB calls $3, UTG folds

i meant to donk into him but i hit check on accident

Turn: ($8.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $6.75</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $13.50</font>

is this just a cooler (my bet pot commited me) or is there a way out of this line?

[catoandtonic]

His line is scary, but villain is obviously clueless. You would have 4.25 effective left after calling, so your pushing or folding 11 to win 29. Your not getting odds to fill up, but combined with the times villain has AK, AQ, AJ, A8 or something weird make this a shove for me.

I don't see anyway of folding a set for the amount we have left. We are pot committed and I don't get away from this for much more money even.

[TilTandWiN]

Unless the board is 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and im holding 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] I'm never folding a set. This is obviously unrealistic - but the message that I'm trying to get accross is that at 25NL dont sweat the nuts all the time - alot of people are retarded and your set will always be ahead of their range.

Then again I cant think of a stronger line. Brave fold if you make it.

[Micro Donk]

bump

[Profish2285]

I will try to respond but I really am unsure here. I am guessing thats why you arent getting too many responses also. His line here indicates a flush obviously. But, with the amount of money already invested, coupled with this ever being a pair and nut flush draw, it becomes a clear call. If this was deeper than 100 bb's I guess you could find a fold. But the fact is that he started out with 87 bb's, and I dont find myself folding sets for 87 bb's tbh.

[Profish2285]

Im gonna bump this for micro donk because I am really curious what everyone says here as well. I think this is a very difficult spot and any advice would be appreciated.

[Nemesis69]

I'm shoving here all day. I think we're ahead of his range 80% of the time. Can we really give him credit for a flopped flush? I think villian will show lots of Ax with another big diamond, or AJ....

[bingrich]

Push

Half your stack in there against what looks like a fish. He could still be drawing to the flush. Villain's line does look strong but I think I'm going broke here. If he flopped a flush it's a cooler. I had a bunch of them tonight.

[Profish2285]

Villains line doesnt just look strong, its the strongest line I could think of. If he does this with a draw often then hes a maniac.

[bingrich]

I'm tired and misread part of the action. I'm more unsure now. Yeah it does look like a flush. Still don't know if I can fold it.