NL50 - 3bet pot - 4 way

[Profish2285]

See honestly, I never really understood the whole commitment threshold thing here. Either youre beat or youre not. If you think there is a very strong chance youre beat, then why put in more money just because you put in alot already? Its not like you put in 3/4 or more of your stack, thats a different story.

[slush420]

I think half potting the turn here is fine. You may find a call out of a draw and most raises in a pot this big aren't bluffs. So I say bet 1/2 pot on turn and fold to a raise.

[Khumalo]

I make it $14 on the turn and have a very hard time folding to a shove; reads on any of these players would help. Are they all loose donks? Looking at pf, CO's hand seems the weakest, UTG's looks like a high-ish Ax or mid-pair, and BB's hand strikes me as potentially the strongest, although the flop check diminishes the likelihood of JJ and QQ. Again, if you've noted that the people involved are idiots, then just give everyone a range of 22+ and A8s+ and expect the turn to go bet/call much more often than bet/shove.

[SoCalQuest]

Preflop is fine. Bet and fold to a raise on the turn seems optimal.

If you gonna half bet turn, you might as well check and hope for a blank river, since you are giving draws odds to call.

[slush420]

trying to figure out how opponent is getting odds to draw on a 1/2 pot bet unless he has a combo draw. 3:1 odds is fine to give to a flush draw or a str8 draw I believe.

[SoCalQuest]

Betting and giving odds? Half pot gives the opponent 3:1 on his money. With a naked flush draw he needs 5:1 or implied odds.

How is checking better? lol Giving him a freebie to draw rather than charging?

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Betting and giving odds? Half pot gives the opponent 3:1 on his money. With a naked flush draw he needs 5:1 or implied odds.

How is checking better? lol Giving him a freebie to draw rather than charging?

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Yea, but he also gets implied odds, cause he will get another bet out of you on the river.