Preflop decision with ladies against hachem

[DJ Sensei]

I've been playing for a few orbits, haven't shown anything down, and probably have nitty stats if he's using a HUD or anything. No real reads on the other involved players, except that they're either goddamn shortstacks or world champions.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $25/$50 Blinds - 9 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero: $5,591.00
JoeHachem: $9,186.95
ADZ124: $7,407.40
ELLA: $2,800.00
Grisen: $2,122.00
PaintedBird: $1,514.00
MENTOR 2: $4,950.00
goFISHYfishy: $3,744.00
Paylessrake: $925.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">PaintedBird raises to $185.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Paylessrake raises all-in to $925.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1,665.00</font>, <font color="red">JoeHachem raises all-in to $9,186.95</font>, PaintedBird folds, Hero ?

Call or fold? Its roughly 4k to win like 8.5k, so 2:1 ish. Also, is the minreraise the best move when it comes to me the first time around?

[hotmark777]

Definitely looks like AQ... I CALL

[Oki-Oki]

. Realise im out of my leauge here

[Jinx]

bah, didn't see the fact that paylessrake was all in the first time. i think I fold ;;

[JMa]

Hand 0: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 114030168 626394.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 172384116 626394.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

Hand 0: 27.182% 26.96% 00.22% 44316132 366240.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 72.818% 72.60% 00.22% 119332572 366240.00 { KK+, AKs }

i call this but ive never played w joe

[AAismyfriend]

I'd fold, and I hate folding a lot.

[Apathy]

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 0: 39.857% 39.64% 00.22% 114030168 626394.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 60.143% 59.92% 00.22% 172384116 626394.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }

Hand 0: 27.182% 26.96% 00.22% 44316132 366240.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 72.818% 72.60% 00.22% 119332572 366240.00 { KK+, AKs }

i call this but ive never played w joe

[/ QUOTE ]

This is ignoring the fact that you lose the main pot to the short stacker a bunch

[JMa]

just nevermind..

[Clayton]

god 25/50 on stars is so dumb

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

i would fold this fast