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Old 09-11-2007, 02:53 AM
EgoSlasher EgoSlasher is offline
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Default Re: good merge or bad spew on turn?

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I'd just fold. For me to shove, I would have to have alot of prior experience with the dude that involves meta. Not just some datamined stats or passr by type play.

If you infact do have meta history then your play is certainly fine.....and probably correct.

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Proper table selection significantly decreases metagame value vs regs. For mid stakes games it's a super overrated concept.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: good merge or bad spew on turn?

man, most people play so straightforward and tight in the sbs spot. i dunno why everyone seems to think its standard for villains to semibluff here, but its really not. i would need a special read to think sbs capable of that whereas i think alot of people think that should be a default read. with the info you gave i fold to his turn c/r and feel fine about it.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:56 AM
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Default Re: good merge or bad spew on turn?

Stacks just seem a bit too shallow for him to c/r a draw here more often then a made hand that has you drawing SO slim (because of lack of FE if you hold anything). Especially given 'passive' read. Also, he is c/r'n 2 people, not just you.

Giving someone credit for a)putting you on air or a vulnerable hand, and b)acting on that with their stack is giving them alot of credit. One in which prior meta is needed for me to consider some funkiness going on. Without it, I would just give credit since this is often considered a spew without the aformentioned knowledge.

I have no problem with the turn bet.....
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:02 AM
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my main reasoning was "hey he can't check twice there with anything better than what i have, but if he's on a draw he's got a lot of ways to beat my and i dont know which they are, so, lets get it in now and maybe he'll make a bad call"

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Don't ever you see people check twice with hands that can beat TT here?
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:04 AM
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Especially a set on this board.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:04 AM
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this is much better when it works
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:09 AM
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my main reasoning was "hey he can't check twice there with anything better than what i have, but if he's on a draw he's got a lot of ways to beat my and i dont know which they are, so, lets get it in now and maybe he'll make a bad call"

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Don't ever you see people check twice with hands that can beat TT here?

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If he was a random fish, sure, they do all kinds of crazy stuff, but I don't expect a presumably winning, moderately aggressive regular to do that (should he expect a bet on that turn after we check the flop through?)
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:16 AM
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Default Re: good merge or bad spew on turn?

A set isnt very unlikely actually.
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:20 AM
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'should he expect a bet on that turn after we check the flop through?'

How often are you checking behind when someone checks to you twice?
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: good merge or bad spew on turn?

this seems like a set alot here.. i would bet 33 show up here a ton with described villain... not a terrible play if he can make plays on the draw with only one card to come, if not seems like spewage..
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