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Old 10-19-2007, 09:20 PM
NLfool NLfool is offline
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

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I can't help but think that Absolute is gonna offer BIG hush money to some people on this site. It's their only way out.

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Not really a way out at this point I dont think.

Besides N82, Ad, and Dan seem to be above taking such money

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I'd totally take a million dollars. Sorry guys [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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hehe Scott you listening?
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:24 PM
Synergistic Explosions Synergistic Explosions is offline
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Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

sheets

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Seriously? I haven't heard about this tourney before.

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I identified it from Sheets' and Grinder's (who finished fifth) hand histories and publicly mentioned Payup as the fifth account, but didn't bother making all but a few hands of that donkament public because I was getting tired of obvious superuser accounts by then and it was obvious to everyone anyhow.

Sample HH from the tournament: the guy plays 90/80 for 4 hours, then gets AhKh up against 77 on a 7xx 2 heart flop and check/calls.

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Thanks for the info. Is there any proof that this guy played his hands the same way he did as POTRIPPER when it came to opponents mid pocket pairs?
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:26 PM
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

you'll have to take my word for it solely because it got really really old, but trust me, he had the "donkey seeing hole cards" thing down pat
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:27 PM
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

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Dont know where this should be inserted in the cliffsnotes timeline but it was on august22, before the potripper tourney, where I got 2nd to one of the cheating accounts, Payup, in the 1k mtt.

I laughed about Payups invincibility throughout the course of the tourney with inissint while on the phone but didnt think anything of it really until 2+2 started looking into the potripper tourney which i THINK occured later. I sent adanthar my hh for the payup tourney and he essentilly confirmed that the same shenanigans were involved and the payup account was also closed by AP.

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Seriously? I haven't heard about this tourney before.

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I identified it from Sheets' and Grinder's (who finished fifth) hand histories and publicly mentioned Payup as the fifth account, but didn't bother making all but a few hands of that donkament public because I was getting tired of obvious superuser accounts by then and it was obvious to everyone anyhow.

Sample HH from the tournament: the guy plays 90/80 for 4 hours, then gets AhKh up against 77 on a 7xx 2 heart flop and check/calls.

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this is huge and shows that this has more than likely happened in more than one donkument.
what was the action after the check call???
ty for everything adanthar and everyone!
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

sorry, it wasn't AhKh v. 77, I got my hands confused. remember, he's playing 90/80:

COCESARYUME - Posts small blind $800
QUAT4444 - Posts big blind $1600
Dealt to COCESARYUME [8h 8s]
THE GRINDER - Folds
DAVIDP18 - Folds
PAYUP - Raises $3200 to $3200
ADSKIY_BOSS - Folds
DRAWGANGSTA - Folds
BLANCONEGRO - Raises $8000 to $8000
COCESARYUME - Folds
QUAT4444 - Folds
PAYUP - Calls $4800
*** FLOP *** [10d 6h 9h]
PAYUP - Checks
BLANCONEGRO - Bets $12222
PAYUP - Calls $12222
*** TURN *** [10d 6h 9h] [4h]
PAYUP - Checks
BLANCONEGRO - Bets $24000
PAYUP - Raises $48000 to $48000
BLANCONEGRO - All-In(Raise) $27650 to $51650
PAYUP - Calls $3650
*** RIVER *** [10d 6h 9h 4h] [10c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BLANCONEGRO - Shows [8c 7s] (Straight, six to ten)
PAYUP - Shows [Ah Kh] (Flush, ace high)

Date Buyin Tournament/Event Place Entrants Winnings
9/7/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 40 235 —
8/25/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 248 306 —
8/22/2007 $1,000 NL Hold'em 1 119 $35,700.00
8/18/2007 $500 NL Hold'em 248 365 —
8/14/2007 $100 NL Hold'em 20 85 —
8/14/2007 $50 NL Hold'em 63 136 —
8/13/2007 $3 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 628 713 —
8/9/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 54 121 —
6/20/2007 $1,000 NL Hold'em 28 94 —
6/4/2007 $10 NL Hold'em 51 134 —
6/1/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 6 19 —
5/30/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 3 16 —
5/22/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 2 13 $12.00
5/14/2007 $30 NL Hold'em+Rebuys 165 207 —
5/10/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 225 315 —
5/9/2007 $20 NL Hold'em 59 85 —
5/1/2007 $25 NL Hold'em 114 299 —
3/22/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 328 396 —
3/21/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 27 29 —
3/20/2007 $5 NL Hold'em 219 426 —
3/20/2007 $3 NL Hold'em 35 42 —
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

Won't the mass media lose interest in this story soon? And isn't AP very happy with the way they've come out so far in the media? They have little motivation to do much else at this point (other than player reimbursement).

DROP SOME BOMBS
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:32 PM
Synergistic Explosions Synergistic Explosions is offline
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

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you'll have to take my word for it solely because it got really really old, but trust me, he had the "donkey seeing hole cards" thing down pat

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I definately take you at your word. I only asked if he played opponents mid pocket pairs the same way as POTRIPPER because I wondered if it was the same person. I thought POTRIPPER played those hands in a unique style, while others might play them differently when viewing opponents hole cards.

Thanks for your hard work BTW.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

adanthar,

idk, i think to me that hh looks more like a player knowing what was to come rather than a player knowing what another player had.
granted once he saw the flop, he played like he knew what the other player had, but if he knew the cards, and wanted to reduce variance and ensure that he would pick up the chips already in the middle, why wouldn't he just shove preflop rather than flat call and take a flop?
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:33 PM
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Default Re: We haven\'t won yet: latest (10/19) cliff\'s notes on AP scandal

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idk, i think to me that hh looks more like a player knowing what was to come rather than a player knowing what another player had.
granted once he saw the flop, he played like he knew what the other player had, but if he knew the cards, and wanted to reduce variance and ensure that he would pick up the chips already in the middle, why wouldn't he just shove preflop rather than flat call and take a flop?

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stop

just stop

he cheated

I am not going through another 3 hours of HH's to satisfy random people over an issue that the site has already admitted to

ok? ok

edit: also, it helps here when you're a superuser and know that two eights aren't in the deck so 87 only has 4 outs
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:35 PM
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