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$10R -- KK very deep stacked.
Average stack is 12k, Guy who shoved is a decently lag player ... however that probably has little to do with his range of what he's shoving here.... And if it helps, OPR says he has 10k winnings and -25% ROI on stars (nlhe mtt's) Well, when the action got to me I thought for a while because I wanted to think about their hand ranges and what the best amount for me to bet would be, but then I remembered something from Sklansky’s (sp) nl holdem theory which stated (although about cash games I think MIGHT?? apply here: (and im not quoting) If you have a big hand, you should bet one of two ways: 1. A "small, strength hiding bet" which doesn’t give away the strength of your hand and still gets money in the pot. 2. A “big, hand defining bet” which gives away the strength of your hand – BUT doesn’t give your opponents the correct implied odds to draw out on you. So, that in mind, I decided to make it 4.5x the mini raise (no reads on what the mini raise meant btw) I honestly went into my time bank here.... about 30 seconds. I mean wtf.... can I seriously fold here? I have been thinking about it for a while PokerStars Game #11511454966: Tournament #57909117, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2007/08/15 - 23:36:06 (ET) Table '57909117 42' 9-max Seat #8 is the button Seat 1: JOEJOEMUSH (22415 in chips) Seat 2: Nickoli2 (15650 in chips) Seat 3: Pure-Pako (9085 in chips) Seat 4: Constant (19175 in chips) Seat 5: pstarfish (14095 in chips) Seat 6: Rambaldi33 (21070 in chips) Seat 7: ryanb9 (26190 in chips) Seat 8: GameOverXXX (12240 in chips) JOEJOEMUSH: posts small blind 100 Nickoli2: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ryanb9 [Ks Kc] Pure-Pako: folds Constant: raises 200 to 400 pstarfish: folds Rambaldi33: calls 400 McRiverson is connected ryanb9: raises 1400 to 1800 GameOverXXX: folds JOEJOEMUSH: raises 20615 to 22415 and is all-in Nickoli2: folds Constant: folds Rambaldi33: folds ryanb9: calls 20615 *** FLOP *** [4s 3h Qs] JOEJOEMUSH said, "hold for me" *** TURN *** [4s 3h Qs] [7d] *** RIVER *** [4s 3h Qs 7d] [9c] *** SHOW DOWN *** JOEJOEMUSH: shows [Ac Ad] (a pair of Aces) ryanb9: shows [Ks Kc] (a pair of Kings) One thing to note is that when the action got to him he took about .5-1.5 seconds to shove all in. So, yes – of course I figured his range was wider than AA. He was not the best player and had been very active. In the order of what hands I thought he most likely had from greatest to least: AK AA Now, (I didn’t think of this at the time), I have two Kings in my hand. This means that AK is much less likely of a holding. This would make me have to drop AK probably to the bottom of the list (could someone show me how to do the math of how this effects the # of AK/AA/QQ hands there are left). This would then (in compilation with his quick shove) make the list look like this: AA AK/QQ Thus making me lean towards folding. I think I have actually learned a lot just by writing this all out lol, however any additional input would be great |
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Re: $10R -- KK very deep stacked.
Easy call.
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Re: $10R -- KK very deep stacked.
I would have snap called expecting to see AK a whole lot.
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Re: $10R -- KK very deep stacked.
Well, look at this
equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 57.169% 54.59% 02.57% 1598896 75383.50 { KcKs } Hand 1: 42.831% 40.26% 02.57% 1178995 75383.50 { QQ+, AKs, AKo } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 50.035% 46.14% 03.90% 1058273 89342.50 { KcKs } Hand 1: 49.965% 46.07% 03.90% 1056651 89343.00 { QQ+ } equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 22.585% 15.57% 07.02% 192184 86678.00 { KcKs } Hand 1: 77.415% 70.40% 07.02% 869177 86678.00 { KK+ } You should only fold if you are sure he has KK+ |
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